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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Not surprising. It sets up the It Is Up To The States argument though MSNBC is full of crap trying to paint this as an Obama single-handed victory
    Isn't there some law that says a license granted in one state is valid in all, though?
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Well. These rulings (well, one ruling and one dismissal) were about as anticlimactic as one could have predicted. Still, a small step in the right direction.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no, they are simply failing to extend its' validation to the federal level, but leaving it with the State.
    Which has the effect of invalidating the marriage by virtue of making it unequal. It undermines state's rights.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Interesting. Worth another thread - but I would bet, when put to the test, you don't actually believe that.
    Bring it, cp. You make the thread, I'll be there.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    God's are better than everyone else's.
    Well. His Are. Ours are 'good' as measured by the extent to which they mirror His.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Ah, but if a state recognizes a marriage as valid, that state has made it so that said marriage as equal to all other marriages recognized by that state.

    If the federal government steps in and says, "No, that marriage is not equal to this marriage" they are invalidating that marriage in a de facto way.
    If a state recognizes SSM, and 11 do, I don't see how SCOTUS could have ruled other than it did in the Windsor case.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    God's are better than everyone else's.
    My God has different morals than yours, so this is still wrong.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Bring it, cp. You make the thread, I'll be there.
    as a quick question, would you say that getting rid of slavery was a moral advancement?

    If so, how? Isn't it true that the morality that the slave states held that slave-owning was justifiable or even desirable is equal to the moral position that it is not? You haven't had a moral advance in that case, so much as a use of massive amounts of violence by the proponents of one set of morals to impose their beliefs on those who propose another.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Hey maybe now a Soldier's husband or wife will get the same benefits as another Soldier's husband and wife.
    I asked, and he told me YES!
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    To the extent that the government insists on interfering with and regulating what was essentially a religious rite, this ruling is the correct one. All the more reason why the government should not be in the marriage business because this ruling does not just expand the right of gays to have their marriage recognized by the federal government, if a state so recognizes it, it also leaves open the possibility of other equal protections of other marriage "couplings" going forward.

    As for the religious rite of marriage, it's likely that going forward churches will no longer participate in the civil aspect of marriage but only the religious aspect, retaining the rite as between a man and a woman and leaving no room for the civil equality to creep into their services. As such, those who wish to be married in the church of their faith will also have to be married in a civil ceremony recognized by the state in order to be "registered" with the state.
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