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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You said "Procreation has never been on an application or part of a legal construct for marriage" when that is obviously false. If you disregard the "it's always been that way" argument, how can you make the argument that "Procreation has never been on an application or part of a legal construct for marriage"? We either ignore history or we accept it.

    Matrimony was extremely important because it obliged the husband to be responsible for the children (and the 'house') and for the wife to be faithful in that relationship so that the husband would not be working for another mans children.

    If society is ready for Gay marriages then so be it. The same holds true for polygamous marriages, also already de facto recognized in the UK and Canada. But we cannot use history to support Gay marriage. It has always been a heterosexual concept.
    Good luck with CC. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Good luck with CC. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
    Since the two of you are posting near identical failed arguments, I can just repost things I've already said to the same successful effect.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: DOMA unconstitutional. 5-4 decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The main reasons why Proposition H8 would not pass today are two fold: California, just like the rest of the nation has evolved exponentially over the last 5 years and 2. A lot of Californians that voted for Prop H8 realized very soon thereafter that they were snowed by the deceitful Mormon propaganda campaign. I can't tell you how many people have come out and said that they regret their vote because they understand now that it was based on lies primarily perpetrated by the Mormon church.
    Still doesn't change the fact if Obama didn't run for President in 2008.. it wouldn't have passed.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Since the two of you are posting near identical failed arguments, I can just repost things I've already said to the same successful effect.
    There is no question that you have an extraordinary capacity for redundancy. If that won arguments, you'd be a killer in debates.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    There is no question that you have an extraordinary capacity for redundancy. If that won arguments, you'd be a killer in debates.
    Actually, I have an extraordinary capacity for logic, presenting facts, being right, and being persistent. That's why I'm killer in debates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Actually, I have an extraordinary capacity for logic, presenting facts, being right, and being persistent. That's why I'm killer in debates.
    LOL. Persistent, anyway. I'll give you that.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    LOL. Persistent, anyway. I'll give you that.
    And arrogant. NEVER forget arrogant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: DOMA unconstitutional. 5-4 decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Still doesn't change the fact if Obama didn't run for President in 2008.. it wouldn't have passed.
    I don't think it would have made a difference. It wasn't the Obama voters. It was the Mormon lies.
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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And arrogant. NEVER forget arrogant.
    Your arrogance pales in comparison to your persistence. Not that this means you have pitiful levels of arrogance, of course, but just sayin'.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Your arrogance pales in comparison to your persistence. Not that this means you have pitiful levels of arrogance, of course, but just sayin'.
    Darn! I must try harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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