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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this explain this then, in 1833 in Barron v. Baltimore, the USSC rules in a 5 -0 vote..only 5 judges then, that the u.s. bill of rights did not apply to the states, however after the civil war the USSC said it did.

    so according to your line of thinking the states dont have to obey the bill of rights.
    You are making Josie's mistake. I'll repeat myself and highlight the relevant portion that both of you missed:

    If the law was Constitutional in 1964 it is still Constitutional now. If the Supreme Court is allowed to throw out Federal law passed and signed by a duly elected Congress and President on the basis of it being outdated and nothing more, I guess that means the Constitution is up for grabs as a whole.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Wow, Texas and North Carolina didn't
    even wait a single day before declaring that they will push voter ID laws. The whole "win elections by having better ideas" method is just gone from the Republican party, it seems. Win by passing laws to strip American citizens of the right to vote is their policy now.

    Excellent.

    It was the Democrats that pushed the racist BS that was the motivation for the 1964 voting rights act.

    They even fillibustered it.

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    If the Republican Party does not find a way suppress the votes of people of color, given the demographic changes we're seeing in the United States, they're screwed. But this may backfire. It may help to mobilize minority communities. Why the Republican Party continues to wage wars against different groups (women, the poor, gays, etc.), and in fact have now doubled up on minorities (and other vulnerable groups), is beyond me, but I guess they know what they're doing. It's especially disturbing to see Clarence Thomas participate in this electoral lynching.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You are making Josie's mistake. I'll repeat myself and highlight the relevant portion that both of you missed:

    If the law was Constitutional in 1964 it is still Constitutional now. If the Supreme Court is allowed to throw out Federal law passed and signed by a duly elected Congress and President on the basis of it being outdated and nothing more, I guess that means the Constitution is up for grabs as a whole.
    so you want to just deal with the issue, of the decision of being decided on of .........being outdated

    during WWI the u.s. passed a law, concerning espionage, which was suppose to be in force only during the war, however after the war, the congress never removed to the law..its still enforce today.

    so this gives you an idea, of our system of laws are perverted.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Excellent.

    It was the Democrats that pushed the racist BS that was the motivation for the 1964 voting rights act.

    They even fillibustered it.
    the sins of ones past actions or beliefs should not continue to define someone 50 years later. is that in effect what the supreme court ruled in their decision today? that southern states should not continue to subjected to the preclearance requirements of voting rights act because of their past actions of racial discrimination?

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So all of the intents, outcomes, and provisions of the Voting Rights Act, including its specific application to the specific states, stands. The only thing that this case said was that congress needs to update the methodology of determining bias in voting laws. Which means that congress is free to make even more effective standards to protect the voting rights of disenfranchised minorities. Well gee, what a big change. It's sad that we need the supreme court to force the congress to do things, but I have a bad feeling that Republicans will do whatever they can to block an updated method from passing through congress. Without that method, Republicans are free to continue their campaign to stop blacks, women, and latinos from voting, since no enforcement will be possible. This is an obvious decision, but with potentially serious consequences.
    Here we go with the "all Republicans are racits" meme.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Wow, Texas and North Carolina didn't even wait a single day before declaring that they will push voter ID laws. The whole "win elections by having better ideas" method is just gone from the Republican party, it seems. Win by passing laws to strip American citizens of the right to vote is their policy now.
    wouldn't it be funny if this sparks a voting rights movement? a lot of whites are running scared, and have been ever since the numbers started to change ... What is it? Only 63-64% of the population is white (non-Hispanic) now? it's not hard to understand why so many want to stop folks who aren't white from voting ... but I'm pretty sure it will backfire.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    If the Republican Party does not find a way suppress the votes of people of
    color, given the demographic changes we're seeing in the United States, they're screwed. But this may backfire. It may help to mobilize minority communities. Why the Republican Party continues to wage wars against different groups (women, the poor, gays, etc.), and in fact have now doubled up on minorities (and other vulnerable groups), is beyond me, but I guess they know what they're doing. It's especially disturbing to see Clarence Thomas participate in this electoral lynching.
    As long as the Democrats keep creating false Narratives like the Republicans war on whatever, and appealing to the stupidest among us the Country will continue to decline.


    People want jobs, not manufactured narratives.

    Alas, they're moving to Texas.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the sins of ones past actions or beliefs should not continue to define someone 50 years later. is that in effect what the supreme court ruled in their decision today? that southern states should not continue to subjected to the preclearance requirements of voting rights act because of their past actions of racial discrimination?
    I don't think that's what they're saying at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so you want to just deal with the issue, of the decision of being decided on of .........being outdated

    during WWI the u.s. passed a law, concerning espionage, which was suppose to be in force only during the war, however after the war, the congress never removed to the law..its still enforce today.

    so this gives you an idea, of our system of laws are perverted.
    I agree that there are many laws which simply should not be on the books, but we can't have the Court throwing them out because it thinks they're no longer applicable -- that's for Congress to decide.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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