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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

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    I agree with the law being struck down, but it's worth pointing out that the south wouldn't have had to have itself dragged into the modern era with such a law if it would have quit being so pigheaded about racial voting laws.
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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    The sad part is that the current generation is forgetting the lessons learned by the ones before. Couple people piping up on Facebook about how the VRA is all bull**** because literacy tests and poll taxes aren't racist at all.

    Just...ugh. Kids these days! :angryoldmanfistshaking:
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The sad part is that the current generation is forgetting the lessons learned by the ones before. Couple people piping up on Facebook about how the VRA is all bull**** because literacy tests and poll taxes aren't racist at all.

    Just...ugh. Kids these days! :angryoldmanfistshaking:
    That was then. This is now. A world in which people can't imagine the racist component of literacy tests and poll taxes then is a world that does not need the VRA now. What you have observed is progress.
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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That was then. This is now. A world in which people can't imagine the racist component of literacy tests and poll taxes then is a world that does not need the VRA now. What you have observed is progress.
    Except the part where the very things the VRA was designed to prevent are still happening to this day, and provably so. In her dissent Jusice Ginsburg detailed some of the outrageous things that people have recently tried to sneak into the election system. Like slashing vote times in mostly-black precincts while leaving the longer hours in other neighborhoods. And a poll tax blatantly discriminates against the poor.

    No, friend, what I have observed is young people being naive. Literacy tests never had correct answers. The way to pass the test was to be white. Ignorance of that aspect of history is not progress.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Except the part where the very things the VRA was designed to prevent are still happening to this day, and provably so. In her dissent Jusice Ginsburg detailed some of the outrageous things that people have recently tried to sneak into the election system. Like slashing vote times in mostly-black precincts while leaving the longer hours in other neighborhoods. And a poll tax blatantly discriminates against the poor.

    No, friend, what I have observed is young people being naive. Literacy tests never had correct answers. The way to pass the test was to be white. Ignorance of that aspect of history is not progress.
    This is one of those times when less harm will be done if government does less.
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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    This is one of those times when less harm will be done if government does less.
    Less race-based election tampering, yes. The VRA stops the government from doing that sort of thing. You probably don't realize it, but you're arguing for more government interference. Shouldn't you be against that? Or is it ok for local government to suppress the votes of minorities?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Less race-based election tampering, yes. The VRA stops the government from doing that sort of thing. You probably don't realize it, but you're arguing for more government interference. Shouldn't you be against that? Or is it ok for local government to suppress the votes of minorities?
    Did you agree that King Shamir Shabazz needed to stand outside a Philly voting station with a billy club, dressed in para military garb? Was that ok with you? Because it obviously was ok with our current (In)justice dept. head.
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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did you agree that King Shamir Shabazz needed to stand outside a Philly voting station with a billy club, dressed in para military garb? Was that ok with you? Because it obviously was ok with our current (In)justice dept. head.
    Are you really comparing one guy standing outside a voting precinct with a systematic effort to rig the election system to disenfranchise black people? Really man? You're that desperate to defend election rigging done in your favor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The sad part is that the current generation is forgetting the lessons learned by the ones before. Couple people piping up on Facebook about how the VRA is all bull**** because literacy tests and poll taxes aren't racist at all.

    Just...ugh. Kids these days! :angryoldmanfistshaking:
    Literacy tests and poll taxes aren't racist, because they were equally applied to whites as well as blacks.
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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Literacy tests and poll taxes aren't racist, because they were equally applied to whites as well as blacks.
    No, they definitely were not applied equally. That's the details of history that aren't being taught very well. These literacy tests were worded in a way as to leave many of the answers ambiguous, and a single incorrect answer made you ineligible to vote. What counted as an incorrect answer was up to the person "grading" your test at the polls. The real way to pass the literacy test was to be white.

    It's like the voter IDs. On paper, they don't apply differently based on race. It just happens that the ID's are harder to get in black neighborhoods.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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