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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do you believe it was done on a technicality? And that a technicality should be allowed on an overarching issue like voting? And that states should now be allowed to hurry in with previously determined illegal voting laws before said technicality can be resolved?
    I believe that a court of law should decide things based on a law -- common law, state law, Federal law, Constitutional law, natural law, some clearly stated and widely accepted principle that isn't out of left field. Discarding a law because of an opinion on its relevance in today's world falls under none of those headings.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    my jefferson statement has to do with those who say jefferson was NOT christian, well this proves them wrong.
    yes, I know ... he just wasn't an in-your-face-you-gotta-believe-what-I-believe Christian ...

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    yes, I know ... he just wasn't an in-your-face-you-gotta-believe-what-I-believe Christian ...
    that's 100% correct,

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Never heard that expression ?

    I'm guessing it's just one small bit of a exponential amount of knowledge you lack.

    But you said I was " dumb " so lets address that claim.

    The vast majority of Democrats that voted for Obama in 2008 were taken in by a media construct and a camapign that produced a concept not a leader.

    They chose to ignore his past radical affiliations and lack of experience and also felt the time for a black candidate had come, regardless of experience and qualifications.

    Well we learned fairly quickly how important experience was, and struggled for 4 years as more and more Americans became acquainted with Government assistance.

    In 2012 his campaign and the media pushed the false constructs and narratives like the Republicans war on woman and singled in on Romneys character, because there was absolutley no accomplishment they could point to to validate a second term for Obama.

    If you believed those narratives, if you voted for a man who had added 6 trillion to our structural debt and had his FED pump unlimited QE into the financial markets while people struggled with chronic unemployment then well, your'e just not that bright.

    There is no way around it, our future had been decided by the least of us and its panning out exactly like I thought it would in 2008.

    Multiple scandals, a economy on life suppprt and people who lack character and integrity making excuses for it.
    I'm surprised that you were so offended by being called dumb when you go around calling everyone who disagrees with you dumb ... Fenton, there's no sense trying to have a conversation with someone who confuses baseless assertions with facts ... How do you know why people voted as they did or why they support who they do? Think about it ... if they don't see things the way you do, they were fooled ... Really Fenton? Come on ... BTW, you must've been beside yourself from 2000 to 2008 ... I do have to smile that the so-called experienced guy took us to the brink of a depression and the so-called inexperienced guy prevented it ... LOL ... Fenton, have the last word ... as I said, you're not one with whom to have a reasonable conversation ... take care ...

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I'm surprised that you were so offended by being called dumb when
    you go around calling everyone who disagrees with you dumb ... Fenton, there's no sense trying to have a conversation with someone who confuses baseless assertions with facts ... How do you know why people voted as they did or why they support who they do? Think about it ... if they don't see things the way you do, they were fooled ... Really Fenton? Come on ... BTW, you must've been beside yourself from 2000 to 2008 ... I do have to smile that the so-called experienced guy took us to the brink of a depression and the so-called inexperienced guy prevented it ... LOL ... Fenton, have the last word ... as I said, you're not one with whom to have a reasonable conversation ... take care ...
    I just had to correct your error and yes, if you blindly buy into the false narratives that this administration uses to stay in power, your just not that intelligent.

    What do you want me to say ? You want me to lie ?

    Millions of people had the abillity to vet this President properly so there's really no excuse for casting a vote in his favor.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    By that logic, any law can be thrown out, because a judge thinks it's unconstitutional.
    When that judge is part of a SCOTUS majority that is exactly what happens. SCOTUS makes law not because it is right but because it speaks last.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    I'm really sick and tired of the supreme court not understanding their job. Instead of striking it down on constitutional grounds like they should have done, they instead struck it down on the basis that it is outdated. All they ever have to do is stand by the constitution and yet they never do. They don't even do it in cases like this where it is clearly unconstitutional, but instead just make up some stupid basis to strike it down. Pathetic.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Interestingly enough, I happened to read the Voter's Rights Act a few days before the ruling. My initial reaction was this law no longer applied and needed to be removed. I'm not so sure that SCOTUS had Constitutional reasons to do so. Probably should have been repealed legislatively. Though I agree with the outcome, I'm not so sure I agree with the process.
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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm really sick and tired of the supreme court not understanding their job. Instead of striking it down on constitutional grounds like they should have done, they instead struck it down on the basis that it is outdated. All they ever have to do is stand by the constitution and yet they never do. They don't even do it in cases like this where it is clearly unconstitutional, but instead just make up some stupid basis to strike it down. Pathetic.
    And I agree. And the concern I have is the requirements invented by these 15 Southern states in order to get a voter ID. These states haven proven in the past what illegal ends they are willing to go to with the intent of denying a voter ID to intended constituencies.

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    Re: US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the voting rights act has been renewed multiple times since it was first signed into law, including the most recent renewal in 2006. so why is it that the states have only started to complain about it now, specifically provision number 4, the part of the law that was struck down?
    A lot of time has passed since it was previously renewed. The 1982 reauthorization occurred after just 17 years. By 2006, 41 years had passed.

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