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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...onal-scrutiny/


    Attachment 67149391

    Some further thoughts on the subject from Silver:
    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...onate-in-2014/


    Iguana, your post factually incorrect. They did not all recieve their exemption, they especially did not recieve it in a timely manner.
    That all depends on a persons definition of timely.

    To some the definition of timely is quick and efficient. Another definition of timely is how southern states veiwed the gradual process of eliminating segregated schools, their definition of gradual meant "never"

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That all depends on a persons definition of timely.

    To some the definition of timely is quick and efficient. Another definition of timely is how southern states veiwed the gradual process of eliminating segregated schools, their definition of gradual meant "never"
    Thats a super special attempt to derail the argument. Motion to derail denied, stick with the damn topic :/

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Not one group was denied only delayed. There is a difference.
    " Delayed " ??

    LOL !!! Until way after the election.

    Until the IRS got busted for targeting Conservatives.

    Your'e not going to sway me with your Bull Sh**. You guys keep forgetting I'm not a Obama supporter.

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That all depends on a persons
    definition of timely.

    To some the definition of timely is quick and efficient. Another definition of timely is how southern states veiwed the gradual process of eliminating segregated schools, their definition of gradual meant "never"
    Wow.

    The extent you folks are willing to go to to squash this scandal.

    You even lie to yourselves.

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    So do you trust Darrel Issa?
    Not completely no, but why must there be an equivalency test?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    So do you trust Darrel Issa?
    More than I trust Cummings.
    Eliana Johnson: The IRS's Best Friend in Congress - WSJ.com
    Mr. Cummings's enthusiasm for defending the IRS may make him a lonely figure among the 22 Republicans and 16 Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, but he is likely to find an ally in his chief counsel on the committee. She is Susanne Sachsman Grooms, who worked for the IRS between 2008 and 2011 as an adviser to the deputy commissioner for services and enforcement and then as a senior counselor to the chief of criminal investigations. At the time, the deputy commissioner for services and enforcementóher bossówas none other than Steven Miller, who held the post of IRS commissioner from November 2012 until his resignation in May after the scandal broke. Mr. Cummings also has a strong tie to the Obama administration: His staff director on the Oversight Committee, David Rapallo, is a former White House lawyer.
    Cummings is a walking conflict of interest. His chief consul used to work for the IRS, and his staff director is a WH lawyer.

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    In a short answer, NO. I don't trust Levin, any more than I trust Cummings when he laughably tries to declare the investigation closed by saying that he found a self professed conservative involved....Both, are touting that we are to take what they say on face value, with trust....Sorry...this is just more subterfuge....
    Sadly it looks like you won't accept any facts that don't back up what you "know" to have happened.

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I guessing it's because liberals don't understand taxes.
    Or they're tired of paying them to support unproductive white trash conservatives in southern states.

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Sadly it looks like you won't accept any facts that don't back up what you "know" to have happened.
    When you have those facts then feel free to present them, short of that I am not interested in your critique of what you think you know about my position.
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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    I'm guessing because the claims are bull****. Liberals whine about everything, if they felt there was any kind of impropriety they would be pissing up a storm. I suspect this is another deflection, as in "it wasn't just conservatives so it's no big deal". a certain number of groups on each side could be expected to be looked at closely depending on structure, but then the numbers would be about equal on each side. Keep in mind that in the beginning we were told none of it happened at all. This "well, it happened to both sides" is another fish on a hook, just another way to try to defuse the situation.

    The fact is the IRS used it's power to unfairly target fund raising groups leading up to an election. The groups are very vocal and have strong support (Tea Party), as close as the election was it is entirely possible that without this manipulation the election may have gone the other way. The IRS is at fault to a level that people should be facing serious prison time, and the administration shares the blame for allowing it to happen and then helping to try to cover it up. Keep it up Obama Admin, this kind of thing has happened before and it did not end well for the arrogant assholes in power.
    Somebody didn't read the link, but don't let us interfere with your counterfactual fantasy.

    It now appears the conservative republicans left over from the Bush administration were running a targeting scheme against progressive groups (just like Bush did). The only issue is, how high up does this go in the GOP leadership? Was Issa involved?

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