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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

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    A "rumor" No sir....How about Lois Lerner's own words apologizing for doing it in the first place....? Was she lying when she admitted to it in that speech?
    But what's this?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061801523
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    Nope, you're right here....Obama is using all three as political tools, or weapons against freedom if you wish....Thanks for pointing that out.
    As early as May 13th at 8 AM, you're convinced that this goes all the way to the Whitehouse. The OIG report hadn't even been released at this point.

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    But what's this?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061801523


    As early as May 13th at 8 AM, you're convinced that this goes all the way to the Whitehouse. The OIG report hadn't even been released at this point.
    The funny thing is that we learned that it did go as far as the Chief of Staff for Obama...So I was right...Thanks for pointing that out.
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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    I just came into this thread to chuckle at how insistent Republicans/conservatives want to be that they were being persecuted. It is so hard to be conservative these days, what with the facts having a liberal bias and all...

    This news didn't surprise me in the least. Can we all finally decide to be upset that ANY political groups were abusing of our tax laws? Now that we've established the IRS scrutinized both sides, can we finally say, "Hey, that's what they SHOULD be doing"?
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    Name a Progressive group targeted and denied its status.
    Name a single group denied its status that didn't deserve to be denied.

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I just came into this thread to chuckle at how insistent Republicans/conservatives want to be that they were being persecuted. It is so hard to be conservative these days, what with the facts having a liberal bias and all...

    This news didn't surprise me in the least. Can we all finally decide to be upset that ANY political groups were abusing of our tax laws? Now that we've established the IRS scrutinized both sides, can we finally say, "Hey, that's what they SHOULD be doing"?

    Name a single group denied its status that didn't deserve to be denied.
    You can if your predisposed to blatant misinformation released to cover selective targeting based on political affiliation.

    Not one of you has named a progressive group that was targeted, harassed and then left in limbo.

    Hell , your'e so ideologically blind you've ignored the fact the recent release of misinformation directly contradicts Lois Lerner's statement that this was just a "few low level agents looking for a way to speed up their process".

    You ignore the fact that donor list of Conservatives, not progressives were released illegally and until the IRS's illegal activities were exposed these groups still hadn't received their tax status.

    But now they have and I thought they didn't deserve it. Bull Sh**. Like everything else that comes out of your twisted ideology.

    Sorry your so gullible you buy into the BS that's coming out of the IRS, that your so lacking objectivity, integrity and humility that you've justified their actions.

    You guys whined and cried about Bush, invented narratives and scandals that didn't exist, and now when someone on your side pleads the Fifth in front of Congress, or just outright lies in the case of Holder, you make excuses for it. You create a false reality so you can show your face and defend your'e corrupt ideology.

    Issa hasn't released any information yet but I guarantee no matter what it is you'll be in here making pathetic arguments for the targeting of American citizens for their beliefs.
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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    IRS targeting included liberal groups - CNN.com

    The Internal Revenue Service targeted liberal groups as well as conservatives seeking tax-exempt status, a Democratic congressman charged on Monday after the agency acknowledged the inappropriate practice continued until last month.

    Rep. Sander Levin said the term "progressives" was included on IRS screening lists of applicants for tax-exempt status made available to Congress on Monday.
    It was the first confirmation that the "Be on the Lookout" or BOLO lists used criteria targeting liberal groups after an inspector general's report made public last month said the IRS had used words such as "tea party" to determine possible extra scrutiny.


    Can we finally stop pretending that the IRS "scandal" is actually a scandal? The IRS gave extra scrutiny to political groups applying for 501c(4) status. Political groups should be 527's, not 501c's. What we've dealt with so far is a concerted effort by Republicans to selectively release information, giving the appearance of a scandal.
    Why is this just NOW coming out? Sounds like a 4th quarter lie, to try and keep some folks out of prison.
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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post

    Name a single group denied its status that didn't deserve to be denied.
    what the IRS did was worse. they put those groups in limbo for over 2 years and counting. If the IRS would have denied their status the groups could appeal the denial and it would have went to a court where the IRS would have had to turn over their documents to show the reason for the denial
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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I just came into this thread to chuckle at how insistent Republicans/conservatives want to be that they were being persecuted. It is so hard to be conservative these days, what with the facts having a liberal bias and all...

    This news didn't surprise me in the least. Can we all finally decide to be upset that ANY political groups were abusing of our tax laws? Now that we've established the IRS scrutinized both sides, can we finally say, "Hey, that's what they SHOULD be doing"?

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    A November 2010 version of the list obtained by National Review Online, however, suggests that while the list did contain the word “progressive,” screeners were in fact instructed to treat “progressive” groups differently from “tea party” groups. Whereas screeners were merely alerted that a designation of 501(c)(3) status “may not be appropriate” for applications containing the word ”progressive” – 501(c)(3) groups are prohibited from conducting any political activities – they were told to send those of tea-party groups off ”to Group 7822″ for further scrutiny.

    That means the applications of progressive groups could be approved on the spot by line agents, while those of tea-party groups could not. Furthermore, the November 2010 list noted that tea-party cases were “currently being coordinated with EOT,” which stands for Exempt Organizations Technical, a group of tax lawyers in Washington, D.C. Those of progressive groups were not.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/06/25...#ixzz2XElIh14g

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You can if your predisposed to blatant misinformation released to cover selective targeting based on political affiliation.


    I wonder how long it takes you to spin these things into something you can believe. Tell me, do you find conservative media sources to tell you how to feel about these things, or are you just the victim of what I would call self-brainwashing?

    Not one of you has named a progressive group that was targeted, harassed and then left in limbo.


    No, you were just given the name of the group that was actually DENIED by the IRS, which is ACTUALLY what you were asking for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Maybe you could name. Progressive group that was denied ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    On two other forums I asked the Libs to give me the name of a Progressive group that was denied.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You cant name one Progressive group that was targeted and denied
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Name one Progressive group that was refused it tax status.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Anyway, name a Progressive group that was denied its tax status.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Name a Progressive group targeted and denied its status.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
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    In SIX different posts you challenge someone to name a Progressive group which was denied, and now you act aghast because no one answered a question you didn't ask. Totally shameless, even by your standards.
    Hell , your'e so ideologically blind


    I'm sorry, I have to stop here, I cannot take any more, cannot even finish reading the rest of your post. For YOU to claim another is "so ideologically blind" is just too much laughter for one night. I'm sure you feel like you made good points, but intelligent and objective people know better. And even those who are not intelligent or objective can just read above at the six different times you asked the same question before acting like you asked a different one to see just how incredibly biased you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    what the IRS did was worse. they put those groups in limbo for over 2 years and counting.
    So...having to wait 2 years for someone to give you ten million dollars is worse than never getting it?

    I love Republican non-logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    A November 2010 version of the list obtained by National Review Online, however, suggests that while the list did contain the word “progressive,” screeners were in fact instructed to treat “progressive” groups differently from “tea party” groups. Whereas screeners were merely alerted that a designation of 501(c)(3) status “may not be appropriate” for applications containing the word ”progressive” – 501(c)(3) groups are prohibited from conducting any political activities – they were told to send those of tea-party groups off ”to Group 7822″ for further scrutiny.

    That means the applications of progressive groups could be approved on the spot by line agents, while those of tea-party groups could not. Furthermore, the November 2010 list noted that tea-party cases were “currently being coordinated with EOT,” which stands for Exempt Organizations Technical, a group of tax lawyers in Washington, D.C. Those of progressive groups were not.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/06/25/no-there-are-no-indications-irs-targeted-‘progressives’-way-it-did-‘tea-party’-groups#ixzz2XElIh14g
    I find it amusing you post that like you believe it actually helps your cause. The flip side of that is that applications of progressive groups could be DENIED on the spot by line agents, while those of tea-party groups could not. And, from what I've read (and you're welcome to post a source saying otherwise, I'm not 100% sure about this statement) the only group which actually WAS denied was a progressive group, is that correct?

    Again, and I've said this for weeks now, people are worried about the wrong dang thing. Instead of worrying about groups in limbo or denied, we should be worried about the groups who were passed and the fact so many of them clearly seem to be skirting our laws in order to pump more money into an already corrupted government. But no, you and your buddy Fenton there are far more interested in playing the team game, putting down the other team so your team can win.

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    Re: IRS targeting included liberal groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am guessing is is because they just don't whine as much.
    Then they were stupid not to. The story in no way makes it clear that liberal groups were targeted, and that they were targeted before the election.
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