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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    They get plenty of chances to succeed.



    Of course, maybe there is a racial disparity lately in Austin. Explains why Mack Brown can't put together a winning team in the land where football is religion.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    So some marginal white didnt get in. White students who deserve to be there will be there.

    I have never had a problem. Got into UH law and they have a diversity program.
    Actually, the argument is that some white applicants with considerably better scores and CVs were getting passed over for minorities that didn't even come close to the pedigree.

    I'm not sure that it ever made headlines, as U of M did some self-correction. Since Michigan has one of the top law programs in the country with among the highest scores, they'd only cut themselves off at the knees to force diversity over legitimacy.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Actually, the argument is that some white applicants with considerably better scores and CVs were getting passed over for minorities that didn't even come close to the pedigree.

    I'm not sure that it ever made headlines, as U of M did some self-correction. Since Michigan has one of the top law programs in the country with among the highest scores, they'd only cut themselves off at the knees to force diversity over legitimacy.
    No student at UT or UH law schools dont deserve to be there.

    If you know someone out them.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    No student at UT or UH law schools dont deserve to be there.

    If you know someone out them.
    Affirmative Action changed the definition of "deserve" greatly.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Affirmative Action changed the definition of "deserve" greatly.
    No it didn't.

    All minority law students currently at the University if Houston are scholars and high achievers.

    I assume UT is the same. If you know otherwise tell us who doesnt deserve to be there.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    No it didn't.

    All minority law students currently at the University if Houston are scholars and high achievers.

    I assume UT is the same. If you know otherwise tell us who doesnt deserve to be there.
    What am I, Confucius? I'm not in the admissions department of any major university. What I do know is that AA has been used to apply force to certain situations, creating legitimacy to words like "diversity" and "quotas".

    Otherwise, these whispers would not exist. Connecticut firefighters could take a test without it getting ripped up because 19 of the highest 20 scorers were white. Whites with better scores wouldn't get passed over for minorities in the guise of creating a "blended" campus.

    Affirmative Action's intent was just. Its application was just awful.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    So some marginal white didnt get in. White students who deserve to be there will be there.

    I have never had a problem. Got into UH law and they have a diversity program.
    So whites "deserve" to be passed over for less qualified minorities? How long must this "desreved" punishment persist?
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Just saw an interesting speculation:

    The votes to gut affirmative action are there, but the more senior judges didn't want to overturn it with an 8-court vote when one of the votes to keep affirmative action is recused, as that would undermine the apparent legitimacy of the decision.

    Ginsburg's dissent, by the way, is awesome:


    Abigail Fisher was not a well-chosen plaintiff. She had mediocre grades and SAT score, but no, it must be because she was white.
    You've side stepped the most important consideration of all, which is if she had applied with that SAT and those grades as a black or latino would she have gained admission? I'm guessing that she'd have been a shoe in. GPA = 3.59 and SAT = 1180 and she was "inadmissable regardless of race"? Bull****. People who believe that have got no right to talk about ostriches with their heads in the sand.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    So whites "deserve" to be passed over for less qualified minorities? How long must this "desreved" punishment persist?
    You assume a white was crossed over. I wasn't and don't know any that were. The minority students I know seem to be high achievers.

    There are still more whites in UH law than all other races. I bet UT is still mostly white too.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    When I was a child I thought like you. Then I went to Texas A&M and learned how wrong I was and how socially and deeply and institutionally off-balance the real world is. In 1977 the only black students at A&M were jocks or soldiers (had been or were to be). All other black students connected to the A&M school went to a place called Prairieview, iirc, which was nothing really more than a glorified high school. There were however plenty of blacks working the low-end jobs at the mess hall and bldg maintenance, ie janitors.
    Additionally I happened into a job doing social work in deep East Texas, from College Station to the coast. What I saw really ripped me a new perspective on this subject. Never again did I feel as though we had even come close to recovering from Jim Crow and all that it burdens those of non-white color in the Texas....
    Facing and dealing with reality is so much more ...real, than on-line opining from ivory towers.
    The Black Awareness Committee at A&M was created in 1970: Building Leaders, Living Traditions: The Memorial Student Center at Texas A ... - Amy L. Bacon - Google Books

    In 1976 Fred McClure became the first African-American student body president:

    In Fulfillment of a Dream - African-Americans at Texas A&M University

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