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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    I've never understood trying to purposefully "diversify" universities. Why not base it strictly on performance on standardized tests?
    To make up for past wrongs.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    I've never understood trying to purposefully "diversify" universities. Why not base it strictly on performance on standardized tests?
    Because standardized testing is bull****.
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    To make up for past wrongs.
    I'm not sure that is true, nor am I sure that's "right" (I'm assuming you're referring to "reparations" in sorts).

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    Because standardized testing is bull****.
    What should be used for college admittance, then? Why do you think standardized testing is BS?
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Latino population is rising so admissions will as well.

    Also, like I pointed out earlier it is easy for whites to check latino.

    Small rural white schools benefit a great deal from the 10 percent rule.

    If you graduate from a class of 30 and are in the top 10 with a 3.2 it still counts.
    That 60% latino admission increase happened immediately (1st year of the 10% rule), not over time due to a population shift and that 10% has since been dropped to 8% with pressure to reduce it further now being applied.

    I already agreed that tiny number from very small rural HS classes have benefited. Qualifying to get in does not pay your tuition or get you any scholarship help so many from poor rural areas do not apply/go anyway.
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Has the diversity in graduates retained the diversity in admissions?
    I have no idea what you are asking me.
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    I've never understood trying to purposefully "diversify" universities. Why not base it strictly on performance on standardized tests?
    Because that still ends up discriminating mostly against poor people who have underfunded schools in their districts that don't prepare them as well for the test.

    That, and standardized tests aren't really that great a measure of academic aptitude.
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    What should be used for college admittance, then? Why do you think standardized testing is BS?
    We have standardized testing in a country where there isn't a standard for education. As long as we continue to let education be up to the states and in some cases counties, standardized testing will be nonsensical. There is no standard for history, there is no standard for science, there isn't even a standard for the social sciences. So what exatcly are we testing in a standard way? How many arbitrarily picked facts they can remember? Sure, one could claim that in math, linguistic courses etc, there is some sort of standard, however those standards are pretty self evident and rarely disputed by the states.
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That 60% latino admission increase happened immediately (1st year of the 10% rule), not over time due to a population shift and that 10% has since been dropped to 8% with pressure to reduce it further now being applied.

    I already agreed that tiny number from very small rural HS classes have benefited. Qualifying to get in does not pay your tuition or get you any scholarship help so many from poor rural areas do not apply/go anyway.
    Student loans and grants. Also, TX is chock full of small rural schools as this is a huge state. Whites are not hurting here in TX.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I have no idea what you are asking me.
    Graduation rate. UT has a good graduation rate. About half of all admissions graduate in 4 years.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    The top 10 percent thing is state law and benefits white rural students.
    Is that an economic issue or an issue of race?
    A poor white kid has the same disadvantages as a poor black kid

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