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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    1180 out of 1600 SAT is "crappy?" A 3.59 GPA is "average?" Yet some who had lower scores and averages than her were admitted based on their race, not their achievements. And you find fault in her feeling discriminated against?
    Yeah, her application was kind of weak. Unless she had something in her life she could talk about in her essays or the "special circumstances" of the application, it's always hard to overcome bad numbers.

    I couldn't find information about the GPA's of accepted individuals at UT, but by her test scores, she was scoring about 600's on the different parts (assuming she scored similarly on the writing portion, which is a different issue we can discuss if you want), and given the class profile of accepted students in 2008, she had about 50-56% of students ahead of her by test scores alone. That's a pretty big deficit to overcome.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Yeah, her application was kind of weak. Unless she had something in her life she could talk about in her essays or the "special circumstances" of the application, it's always hard to overcome bad numbers.

    I couldn't find information about the GPA's of accepted individuals at UT, but by her test scores, she was scoring about 600's on the different parts (assuming she scored similarly on the writing portion, which is a different issue we can discuss if you want), and given the class profile of accepted students in 2008, she had about 50-56% of students ahead of her by test scores alone. That's a pretty big deficit to overcome.

    http://www.utexas.edu/student/admiss...ofile-2008.pdf
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    It is average for top teir university student.

    You must carry a 3.5 in any decent program or you fail.
    A top tier university student has a much higher GPA than that. When I applied, I had an unweighted 3.9 GPA, and that put me at a pretty big disadvantage.
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    You're not comparing apples to apples...
    In what way?
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    It is average for top teir university student.

    You must carry a 3.5 in any decent program or you fail.
    Her 3.59 gpa was still better than some admitted; that's what this is about.

    So less than a 3.5 gpa out of 4.0 is failing in an undergraduate program? Link to that? Is it failing at U. of Texas Austin?

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    In what way?
    The top 10% of all HS students at their particular school are admitted to the university regardless of test scores, so using comparative analysis of test scores is meaningless...
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Yeah, her application was kind of weak. Unless she had something in her life she could talk about in her essays or the "special circumstances" of the application, it's always hard to overcome bad numbers.

    I couldn't find information about the GPA's of accepted individuals at UT, but by her test scores, she was scoring about 600's on the different parts (assuming she scored similarly on the writing portion, which is a different issue we can discuss if you want), and given the class profile of accepted students in 2008, she had about 50-56% of students ahead of her by test scores alone. That's a pretty big deficit to overcome.

    http://www.utexas.edu/student/admiss...ofile-2008.pdf
    And others with less achievement/accomplishment were admitted, yet she was denied admission.
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    wonderful line by the school...."we discriminated, for the greater good"

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

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    wonderful line by the school...."we discriminated, for the greater good"
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The top 10% of all HS students at their particular school are admitted to the university regardless of test scores, so using comparative analysis of test scores is meaningless...
    You're right, my analysis was incorrect. But thankfully, the previous link has numbers for those who were not admitted by the 10% rule, so it isn't meaningless, it was just wrong.

    By the correct numbers, more than 65% of the applicants had scores higher than her.
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