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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Yeah, right, like the A&M archives is the best place for accuracy... I was there, I assure there weren't 25 black students at A&M proper, (there was of course A&M Prairieview as mentioned previously) except for those in uniform or those in sports for the entire 4 years I was there. Was I in every class in every bldg at every moment, no. But through a regular 5 year accounting program, which I did not complete the last year, not more than 25 as non-uni'd, non-sports, non-laborer did I see in classes, or on campus, or a Dudley's Draw, or at Dixie Chicken, or the bowling alley, or the mess hall, or the student union.
    All the reports in the world, won't change what I saw with my own eyes.
    You aren't seriously suggesting that the university's archives are inaccurate, are you? If you are, I'd appreciate your directing me to a more reliable source.

    In the meantime, here'a photo, and I count 23 three heads right there (notice the hair styles--clearly not "military"): Black Awareness Committee

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I believe you say this because you know that when the playing field is level, even fewer blacks will be admitted. It is sad when one race cannot compete without being given an advantage they did not earn.
    Actually, the playing field level would be having a single standardized teaching system under which to give standardized tests. As we don't, there's no point in standardized testing.
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    The standard is a person's knowledge and what they know. May I ask your solution to standardized testing?
    You can only implement standardized testing under a standardized teaching system. As we have 50 different school systems, subdivided by their particular counties, there's no point in standardized testing.
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Actually, the playing field level would be having a single standardized teaching system under which to give standardized tests. As we don't, there's no point in standardized testing.
    That would be a disaster. I think that 1+1=? has the same correct answer everywhere, but national testing doesn't have much utility outside the world of math........

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You can only implement standardized testing under a standardized teaching system. As we have 50 different school systems, subdivided by their particular counties, there's no point in standardized testing.
    Sure there is. A teenager can teach themselves things, too, you know. You can also test that. Just because calculus, physics, etc. may not be a part of his state's or county's curricula, doesn't mean the student shouldn't be tested on it, perhaps the student taught his- or herself calculus, physics, etc. ;shrug:
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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    As I'm looking to get a post-graduate degree, I'm genuinely curious if my "white" appearance would be taken into account upon meeting in person, and how that would affect my application, if I actually checked a "minority" box on the application. This article claims that I would be "entitled to self-identify any race and the University [would] not ever question that determination". But do we really think that's true? If that is the case, then what is the point of even considering race, and what is preventing everyone from self-identifying as a minority in order to get the URM bump?
    Oh, these rumblings of the white Neocons~!!

    PS I know your political background. Just giving you a bit of the piss. Good luck with grad school

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    You've side stepped the most important consideration of all, which is if she had applied with that SAT and those grades as a black or latino would she have gained admission? I'm guessing that she'd have been a shoe in. GPA = 3.59 and SAT = 1180 and she was "inadmissable regardless of race"? Bull****. People who believe that have got no right to talk about ostriches with their heads in the sand.
    You're guessing. It's a competitive school and that's not a good SAT score. "Shoe in" my ass. But you can play hypothetical race cards all you want if it makes you feel better.

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    They live in cities.
    so nothing is keeping them from living in rural areas correct?

    Im asking all these questions to try to fond out how is discriminating by location is also discriminating by race when you can change your location

    there are many programs that benefit inner city and not rural areas are they also discriminating by race

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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    This is an academic environment, so I'd go with the academics over some extra-curriculars.
    I wouldn't say that necessarily. If your looking at an A- student who was in a couple of clubs versus a B student who was President of a couple of clubs and on a sports team, I'd take the B student over the A-.


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    Re: Supreme Court punts on affirmative action case

    Poor showing Supreme court
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