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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I heard Dershowitz say that as well. If he is right, the US might just have given Hong Kong the only possible excuse not to extradite him, as espionage is excluded from our extradition treaty with them. A dumb, dumb move on our part. We surely could have filed espionage charges after forcing Hong Kong to send him back.
    Espionage on whose behalf?

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    They needed charges in order to extradite him, though.
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    He's going to Ecuador, not Iceland.
    Much better weather than Iceland.

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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    "Thread: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage"

    The government is no different from any other criminal. They all hate to get caught.

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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    And in bizarre circumstances the patriot is kicking it in communist land after informing (or rather confirming) the people that the US government operating in authoritarian fashion... Now he can't come back and is stuck with communists who obviously want to know what he knows...

    This is the type of **** that happens when you expose this POS authoritarian government - you end up in China - The land where Mao is still held in extremely high regard with force and where Stalin is considered a comrade..
    China isnt communist, and neither is Hong Kong.


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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    They needed charges in order to extradite him, though.
    Pffft! rule of law is so last millennia !

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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
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    The government is no different from any other criminal. They all hate to get caught.
    Caught doing what? A legal security measure authorized by basically the entirety of the people that we voted into office. That's democracy at work.
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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    The Obama-Biden Plan.....

    "Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government. Obama will ensure that federal agencies expedite the process for reviewing whistleblower claims and whistleblowers have full access to courts and due process."

    If only Snowden had done this under Bush. Then he would have Obama in his corner.

    Mr. "Hope and Change" continues to prove to his faithful what a bunch of saps they were and how very much like the rest of the garbage he is. This is far from the first whistleblower under Obama that has been on the run. Don't get me wrong. I voted for him last year, but not because of some Leftist utopian dream of a perfect world after Bush. I saw that he had grown from the starry eyed visionary, apologizing all over Europe, receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, and spouting utopia, to the guy of today who deals with a decrepit world. The problem was and is that the rest of the world won't allow a utopia or an America that wants to clean its hands of its filth.

    Despite his overwhelming naiveté and some bull ****, Obama discovered the world when he entered the White House. At least McCain knew the world he was going to get. It would appear that 5 years later, Obama understands it now too. Spy networks, phone tapping, invading sovereign territory, GITMO, prosecuting whistleblowers.....what was the tag line? Oh yeah......"A vote for McCain is a vote for Bush."

    China called us the greatest villain of all since this made news. If only Obama just took out a dictator.
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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Caught doing what? A legal security measure authorized by basically the entirety of the people that we voted into office. That's democracy at work.
    They got caught spying on the people. It isn't democracy at work. It is the government at work. The people had no intention of being spied upon by the government. The people we voted into office would be criminals in any other environment.

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