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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    What could he do for their safety if he stayed home and got picked up immediately, without a snowball's chance to tell his story? They pick him up, we forget about him in weeks.

    His family's greatest safety is sunlight.
    He's proving that all things he said in the interview is utter crap. He already told his story, it was an interesting tale, but it's looking to be more a work of fiction than fact.
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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    He's proving that all things he said in the interview is utter crap. He already told his story, it was an interesting tale, but it's looking to be more a work of fiction than fact.
    How does that even make sense? Other NSA whistleblowers have come forward and confirmed his allegations and even explained why they were true, fleshing out the details.
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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    How does that even make sense?.
    Bro do you even read?
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    He's proving that all things he said in the interview is utter crap. He already told his story, it was an interesting tale, but it's looking to be more a work of fiction than fact.
    Which part strikes you as fictional, specifically? The part where the government had a secret big-brother program that flagrantly violates the 4th Amendment, or the part where he was legitimately scared of being locked away in a black site until the world forgot about him?
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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I admit to knowing nothing about Iceland's politics, but why would it consider taking Snowden in and possibly offering him citzenship?
    Iceland is just generally very pro-transparency and pro-freedom of expression. It recently passed a well-talked-about law that is supposed to create a "haven" for journalists. The law was heavily supported by Wikileaks so that should tell you how serious it is about protecting sources for leaks and similar people. Iceland has never - to my knowledge - extradited a U.S. citizen and was also where Bobby Fischer hid from the United States when he was wanted by the government.

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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    Which part strikes you as fictional, specifically? The part where the government had a secret big-brother program that flagrantly violates the 4th Amendment, or the part where he was legitimately scared of being locked away in a black site until the world forgot about him?
    lol black site
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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Iceland is just generally very pro-transparency and pro-freedom of expression. It recently passed a well-talked-about law that is supposed to create a "haven" for journalists. The law was heavily supported by Wikileaks so that should tell you how serious it is about protecting sources for leaks and similar people. Iceland has never - to my knowledge - extradited a U.S. citizen and was also where Bobby Fischer hid from the United States when he was wanted by the government.
    Thanks for the clarification. The choice makes sense then.

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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    He's going to Ecuador, not Iceland.
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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    I heard that today too. I think he should come home.

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    re: U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [W:60]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I heard that today too. I think he should come home.
    Considering how Manning has been tortured over the past year, I don't see why he would ever do that.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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