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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    i notice how it is the same people every time around here who come up with this distorted logic. However, with the large number of gun owners in the US it seems we always have to wait for the police to actually do something. I am pretty sure lots of crimes happen outside of gun buster areas, and many of those crimes also happen in areas legal to carry, yet we have to wait around for the police when we have all these gun owners out there claiming to be great heroes saving us all from crime. Seems to me that the police actually do that job, while gun owners run for the hills like everyone else. Even in most cases where we hear of a gun owner actually stopping a criminal it is often in their own home when they were in trouble. I am not saying gun owners should have to save people because i know a person who fearsd walking around without being more armed than the people around them certainly is not going to engage an equally armed person if flight is an option. However, it would be nice if we all did not have to hear how heroic gun owners are and how they are thwarting crime when they are less likely to be there for you than the police. It just seems like an obvious point that crime would not be stopped if there were a lot more gun owners. You would just be more likely to get pissed because a person who might have been able to help you with their firearm runs away like everyone else. It would be nice if the rhetoric wasn't contradicted by the reality that gun owners run away like everyone else, and fleeing in a panic is not a terribly good deterrent to crime.
    The public isn't required to carry a gun whenever outside of a gun-buster area, so if a crime happens to someone who chose not to carry a gun, that's not a fault of pro-gun. Nationally it's only a small number of people who choose to carry a gun. If someone chooses not to carry a gun, that's their business; if a gay couple choose not to marry, that's their business; if a woman chooses not to have an abortion, that's her business: but they should all have the choice.

    You have no data on any claim that "we always have to wait around for police".

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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Sometimes we learn more from a raving lunitic then the corpse of one.
    What would we need to learn from that lunatic other than he was nuts?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What would we need to learn from that lunatic other than he was nuts?
    Mental health issues, intentions, the kind of things you can get from a living person.

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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The only remaining classification is Enemy Combatant.
    Is law enforcement a class in its own right?

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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

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    Utter ignorance
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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Ahh, when the cop responded to the call he engaged in a national discussion and took polling data to find out why he (the cop) was at fault for this shooting and what he could do better in the future, and then went home.
    Actually, I think the cop should be afraid for his job, because he used excessive force.
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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Mental health issues, intentions, the kind of things you can get from a living person.
    Don't really care why he did those things.Those things do not negate what he did and they are not going to help us from preventing or stopping another similar shooting.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Sometimes we learn more from a raving lunitic then the corpse of one.
    We certainly learn the cost of patching them up, trying them and caring for them until they eventually die. What exactly have we learned from that mass murdering moron in Aurora, CO?
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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So your evidence is an unsubstantiated hero story by a supposed gun hero who did not actually save anyone but his own ass which actually corresponds to my point. Even if this is true it does not even show that gun owners make a difference in anyone else's lives so the claim that they actually do something even close to law enforcement is still unchallenged. At least the story is convenient in the fact some guy on the internet is claiming something that has no proof aside from the claims some guy told him in some conversation. I suppose your claims must be true because it is written on the internet by someone who admittedly never even saw the event. I remember this one time I was listening to this girl tell me about this time at band camp where she totally stuck a flute in a bodily opening it probably did not belong. Clearly now it must be true because i totally wrote it on the internet.
    For those people that were shot... how many were armed?
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    Re: N.C. gunman shot after wounding 4 at law firm, Walmart

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Is law enforcement a class in its own right?
    The Geneva conventions did not make a "law enforcement officer" classification. You are either a civilian, and enemy combatant, or a member of a country's military. That's it.

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