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    Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    The Senate’s pending immigration bill will pave the way for the arrival of 46 million legal immigrants over the next 20 years, increase the federal debt in the same time period and shrink Americans’ average wage, according Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Session’s critical reading of two new reports on the pending immigration reform bill provided by the Congressional Budget Office.

    But Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, the most prominent GOP advocate for the immigration reform bill, says the CBO reports are good news for Americans.

    “The CBO has further confirmed what most conservative economists have found: reforming our immigration system is a net benefit for our economy, American workers and taxpayers,” Rubio said in a statement on Tuesday. “The report offers encouraging evidence that the [bill could] reduce the deficit over the next 20 years.”



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    Re: Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    Hmmm, how is it that 46 million new, poverty level, un-skilled, non-tax paying, *immigrants* would be GOOD for our country??

    Rubio is either an idiot or a complicit demon.

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    Re: Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Senate’s pending immigration bill will pave the way for the arrival of 46 million legal immigrants over the next 20 years, increase the federal debt in the same time period and shrink Americans’ average wage, according Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Session’s critical reading of two new reports on the pending immigration reform bill provided by the Congressional Budget Office.
    First, the CBO report indicates that the immigration legislation would reduce, not increase, federal deficits.

    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...ments/s744.pdf (the numbers are on page 12)

    Second, the CBO also projects that the legislation would increase the population by 16 million persons by 2033, not 46 million

    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...mmigration.pdf (the population projection is on page 4)

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    Re: Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    First, the CBO report indicates that the immigration legislation would reduce, not increase, federal deficits.

    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...ments/s744.pdf (the numbers are on page 12)

    Second, the CBO also projects that the legislation would increase the population by 16 million persons by 2033, not 46 million

    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...mmigration.pdf (the population projection is on page 4)
    Looks like the CBO is referring to 'labor' force' which is even worse news considering 30 million would be on the government dole.

    Then there's this: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/cbo...6/19/id/510737

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    Re: Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Looks like the CBO is referring to 'labor' force' which is even worse news considering 30 million would be on the government dole.

    Then there's this: CBO: Immigration Bill Could Add Billions to Cost of Obamacare
    From your own link

    Overall, however, the immigration bill is expected to boost the economy by adding $200 billion to the federal budget in the first decade and an additional $700 billion in the second decade, as the increased revenue from taxes will outweigh the costs of benefits for new citizens.
    Seriously dude it was only like 4 paragraphs. Classic media trick: sensationalist headline, but the article is more truthful. A month from now, you're only going to remember the headline.
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    Re: Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    Any serious immigration reform proposal must include ending chain migration. This is the No.1 reason I oppose this bill.

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    Re: Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Senate’s pending immigration bill will pave the way for the arrival of 46 million legal immigrants over the next 20 years, increase the federal debt in the same time period and shrink Americans’ average wage, according Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Session’s critical reading of two new reports on the pending immigration reform bill provided by the Congressional Budget Office.

    But Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, the most prominent GOP advocate for the immigration reform bill, says the CBO reports are good news for Americans.

    “The CBO has further confirmed what most conservative economists have found: reforming our immigration system is a net benefit for our economy, American workers and taxpayers,” Rubio said in a statement on Tuesday. “The report offers encouraging evidence that the [bill could] reduce the deficit over the next 20 years.”



    Read more: CBO says Senate bill will add 46 million immigrants to the United States | The Daily Caller
    And considering how the CBO is always wrong the number will be more like 150 million.

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    Re: Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    The CBO uses the numbers given to them by those that support a particular bill. That's not a partisan statement,that is just what they do.

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    Re: Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    Quote Originally Posted by Drake McHugh View Post
    The CBO uses the numbers given to them by those that support a particular bill. That's not a partisan statement,that is just what they do.
    That's not correct. From the CBO's discussion of its methodology:

    All of CBO’s projections and estimates reflect the agency’s objective, impartial, and nonpartisan analytical judgment. CBO’s estimates of spending and revenues under current law and of the effects of proposed legislation depend on myriad projections of economic and technical factors over the next 10 years or longer, as well as projected behavioral responses to federal policies by families, businesses, and other levels of government. Those projections and estimates are always determined on the basis of the professional judgment of CBO’s staff, drawing upon on a detailed understanding of federal programs, careful reading of the research literature, and consultation with outside experts (as discussed in more detail later on this page). The projections and assumptions are not directed or influenced by the Congress in any way.

    To be sure, the evolution of specific federal programs, of the budget as a whole, and of the U.S. economy under current law are often very uncertain, as are the possible effects of legislation being considered by the Congress. Therefore, the agency’s goal is to develop estimates that are in the middle of the distribution of possible outcomes and to communicate clearly the basis for those estimates and the uncertainty surrounding them.

    In constructing projections of budget outcomes, CBO takes existing law as it is stands and does not attempt to predict changes that might be made by the Congress in the future. When the Congress considers modifying current law, CBO provides cost estimates for those modifications. As it prepares those estimates, CBO takes that legislation as it is written and does not attempt to predict the ways in which the Congress might amend that legislation in the future. There is no plausible alternative to that approach. If, instead, CBO incorporated its own predictions of future Congressional action in its analysis of current or proposed laws, that analysis would ultimately be hard to interpret and less useful to the Congress and the public. However, in addition to its budget projections that reflect current law, the agency regularly shows the effects of adopting alternative policies that have been discussed by the Congress, so that the budgetary impact of those alternative policies is clear.


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    Re: Senate bill allows 46 million immigrants by 2033, says CBO

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    That's not correct. From the CBO's discussion of its methodology:

    All of CBO’s projections and estimates reflect the agency’s objective, impartial, and nonpartisan analytical judgment. CBO’s estimates of spending and revenues under current law and of the effects of proposed legislation depend on myriad projections of economic and technical factors over the next 10 years or longer, as well as projected behavioral responses to federal policies by families, businesses, and other levels of government. Those projections and estimates are always determined on the basis of the professional judgment of CBO’s staff, drawing upon on a detailed understanding of federal programs, careful reading of the research literature, and consultation with outside experts (as discussed in more detail later on this page). The projections and assumptions are not directed or influenced by the Congress in any way.

    To be sure, the evolution of specific federal programs, of the budget as a whole, and of the U.S. economy under current law are often very uncertain, as are the possible effects of legislation being considered by the Congress. Therefore, the agency’s goal is to develop estimates that are in the middle of the distribution of possible outcomes and to communicate clearly the basis for those estimates and the uncertainty surrounding them.

    In constructing projections of budget outcomes, CBO takes existing law as it is stands and does not attempt to predict changes that might be made by the Congress in the future. When the Congress considers modifying current law, CBO provides cost estimates for those modifications. As it prepares those estimates, CBO takes that legislation as it is written and does not attempt to predict the ways in which the Congress might amend that legislation in the future. There is no plausible alternative to that approach. If, instead, CBO incorporated its own predictions of future Congressional action in its analysis of current or proposed laws, that analysis would ultimately be hard to interpret and less useful to the Congress and the public. However, in addition to its budget projections that reflect current law, the agency regularly shows the effects of adopting alternative policies that have been discussed by the Congress, so that the budgetary impact of those alternative policies is clear.


    CBO | our processes
    Yes,they are going to admit that they basically abdicate their job! Not to mention the fact that they were dead wrong on Obamacare and EVERY estimate(always WAY low). They use the numbers given to them.

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