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    IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    WASHINGTON — A self-described conservative Republican who is a manager in the Internal Revenue Service office that targeted Tea Party groups, told investigators that he, not the White House, set the review in motion, the top Democrat on the House watchdog committee said Sunday.

    In the transcript, the manager said he and an underling set aside “Tea Party” and “patriot” groups that had applied for tax-exempt status because the organizations appeared to pose a new precedent that could affect future IRS filings.
    Interesting development, but whether the staffer was a Republican or not is not the question. The IRS DID target Tea Party groups a lot more closely than Progressive groups. However, this does not appear to be political, but bungling how the IRS investigates applications for 501(c)3 status by groups. Many Tea Party groups had applied, which appeared to be more political than providing social programs, may have had an impact on how the IRS investigated, but the IRS ended up going overboard. This seems more like incompetence than political motivation, but whatever the reason, the IRS does owe apologies to the Tea Party groups they overscrutinized.

    However, take this story with a grain of salt. The story is laid out by a Democrat. What actually occurred could be different. Let's wait and see how quickly this can be verified, one way or the other.

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    Edit: The actual transcripts of the committee hearings (Part 1 and Part 2) seem to back this up. No wonder Daryl Issa did not want the transcripts released.
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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Interesting development, but whether the staffer was a Republican or not is not the question. The IRS DID target Tea Party groups a lot more closely than Progressive groups. However, this does not appear to be political, but bungling how the IRS investigates applications for 501(c)3 status by groups. Many Tea Party groups had applied, which appeared to be more political than providing social programs, may have had an impact on how the IRS investigated, but the IRS ended up going overboard. This seems more like incompetence than political motivation, but whatever the reason, the IRS does owe apologies to the Tea Party groups they overscrutinized.

    However, take this story with a grain of salt. The story is laid out by a Democrat. What actually occurred could be different. Let's wait and see how quickly this can be verified, one way or the other.

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    And the fact that this program neutralized a significant part of the President's opposition during the 2012 election cycle is merely coincidental.
    You can come up with all the conspiracy theories you want to, but they can't change what is in the actual hearing transcripts, which is testimony under oath, and even by a Republican who oversaw the IRS Cincinatti office.
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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    And the fact that this program neutralized a significant part of the President's opposition during the 2012 election cycle is merely coincidental.
    Of course not

    It's proof that even "self-described conservative republicans" were conspiring to defeat Romney
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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Interesting development, but whether the staffer was a Republican or not is not the question. The IRS DID target Tea Party groups a lot more closely than Progressive groups. However, this does not appear to be political, but bungling how the IRS investigates applications for 501(c)3 status by groups. Many Tea Party groups had applied, which appeared to be more political than providing social programs, may have had an impact on how the IRS investigated, but the IRS ended up going overboard. This seems more like incompetence than political motivation, but whatever the reason, the IRS does owe apologies to the Tea Party groups they overscrutinized.

    However, take this story with a grain of salt. The story is laid out by a Democrat. What actually occurred could be different. Let's wait and see how quickly this can be verified, one way or the other.

    Article is here
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    Edit: The actual transcripts of the committee hearings (Part 1 and Part 2) seem to back this up. No wonder Daryl Issa did not want the transcripts released.
    Who started the "targetted review" process is very not important. That it was recognized, yet allowed to proceed unchecked, is the issue. Management is still responsible for the (in)actions of the agency personnel and should be held fully accountable. The "some other dude started it" excuse should not be allowed to excuse those responsible for letting the practice continue. We did not accept that only the Exxon Valdez captain was responsible for the Alaska oil spill nor should we allow the IRS management to lay the blame on the "initiatve" taken by its employees.
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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Who started the "targetted review" process is very not important. That it was recognized, yet allowed to proceed unchecked, is the issue. Management is still responsible for the (in)actions of the agency personnel and should be held fully accountable. The "some other dude started it" excuse should not be allowed to excuse those responsible for letting the practice continue. We did not accpet that only the Exxon Valdez captain was responsible for the Alaska oil spill nor should we allow the IRS management to lay the blame on the "initiatve" taken by its employees.
    I completely agree with you. The head of the Cincinatti IRS office should be sacked. And, by the way, the head of the Cincinatti IRS office, who IS a Republican, admitted, under oath, that he was the one who started this. So yea, he is culpable, and his head needs to roll.

    Chalk this up to incompetence, not politics.
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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You can come up with all the conspiracy theories you want to, but they can't change what is in the actual hearing transcripts, which is testimony under oath, and even by a Republican who oversaw the IRS Cincinatti office.
    No problem. We can abolish the IRS and let the gods sort it all out.

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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    No problem. We can abolish the IRS and let the gods sort it all out.
    Then who would collect taxes?

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    Then who would collect taxes?
    Nobody, I hope.
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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    And another one bites the dust. Will the racist Obama haters learn anything from this? This is what they said it was right from the start. Just too many baggers attempting to con the system.

    No, they won't learn because politics is skin deep and their racist hate goes clean to the bone!

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