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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Jeepers, these groups were not targetted. Why do you think there was something sinister behind this? They just wanted to use the same rules/protocol on all like-minded groups. Why is that so freakin hard to accept?
    Did they apply the same rules to OFA?

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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Obama disagrees with you, even though his own administration is at fault.
    Just like he overreacted when the now ripped apart ACORN video scadal (don't you just love that word!) came to light. Often it takes time to get at the truth and hard facts, but it seems Obama--in this case too-- was more concerned with appearances. Tsk tsk.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Jeepers, these groups were not targetted. Why do you think there was something sinister behind this? They just wanted to use the same rules/protocol on all like-minded groups. Why is that so freakin hard to accept?
    They were targeted. I'm not sure that there is even any legitimate debate over that. I mean TIGTA said they were targeted, Schulman said they were targeted, Cummings himself has said they were targeted.

    When applications are pulled based on keywords related to political ideology that's targeting and the fact that ALL applications containing those words were sent up for additional scrutiny and a huge percentage of them were unduly delayed that's reasonable cause to look at the possibility of intimidation.

    The transcript the OP is citing details one small aspect of what was going on and the actions and decision of one person in a long list of people who were involved in this activity.

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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    They were targeted. I'm not sure that there is even any legitimate debate over that.

    They were not targeted. I'm not sure that there is even any legitimate debate over that.

    Wow, talk about opposite ends of the spectrum.
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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    They were targeted..
    By a GOP operative.

    Doesn't fit into your narrative too well, does it?



    Excerpt from transcript of deposition of IRS Cincinnati manager, under penalty of perjury:

    Q: And, sir, are you familiar with the National Treasury Employees Union?

    A: Yes.

    Q: Are you a member of the union?

    A: No, I am not.

    Q: And __________, are you registered to vote?

    A: Yes, I am.

    Q: And do you have a party affiliation?

    A: Yes, I do.

    Q: What's your party affiliation?

    A: I am a conservative republican.

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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    They were not targeted. I'm not sure that there is even any legitimate debate over that.

    Wow, talk about opposite ends of the spectrum.
    Is this a semantic argument about the use of the word "targeted"? Would you prefer "unequally scrutinized based on political lean"?
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    You may have a point there. The Democrats court social conservatives and the Republicans court fiscal liberals. Those seem to be the swing voters but fiscal conservatives account for a huge portion of voters and we're fed up with both parties being against us.

    Poll: GOP Can Broaden Appeal by Sticking to Fiscal Conservatism - US News and World Report
    I agree. I am a fiscal conservative. Also, on the social side, I am pro-life, pro-gun and anti-government cheese. However, I do not feel the need to cram my conservative-side beliefs down the throats of my fellow American's and mandate that they live by my personal beliefs. That makes me, technically, according to extreme righties, a liberal.

    I believe the GOP has became too dependent on the social conservatives, which mainstream, middle-of-the-road people (read; majority,) just seem to love to hate, and it is costing them dearly. But they are between the proverbial rock and hard place. If they cast away the social conservatives and Tea Party types from their flock, will there be enough moderates to fill the void? With with the recent "GOP obstruction" attitudes people have towards the GOP, and given the republican led congress disapproval numbers, would shunning the TP'er's even be enough to save their sinking ship?


    Yes, the GOP has some hard decisions to make in the near future. I wish them well. Imagine how this country would be if the democrats had full control. I shutter to think about that. I hope when the smoke clears and cooler heads start prevailing, the GOP can fulfill it's potential and get back in step with America. But it helps them none when America identifies the likes of Palin, Bachmann, Perry, Cruz and FOXNews when they think of the GOP. They need to repair that brand image as well.
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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Is this a semantic argument about the use of the word "targeted"? Would you prefer "unequally scrutinized based on political lean"?
    The OP's article states: "An internal IRS report found the agency improperly targeted the small-government advocates for additional scrutiny."

    Didn't think we would have folks insisting that they weren't targeted.

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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    The OP's article states: "An internal IRS report found the agency improperly targeted the small-government advocates for additional scrutiny."

    Didn't think we would have folks insisting that they weren't targeted.
    Kind of depends on whether progressive groups were equally selected out. No word on that after all the so-called investigations.

    Still, I'm happy to say that the tea party was targeted, now that it's clear a GOP operative was behind the targeting. Looks more and more like a Nixonian GOP dirty trick, perhaps linked to Issa.

    Shouldn't we investigate that?

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    Re: IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Is this a semantic argument about the use of the word "targeted"? Would you prefer "unequally scrutinized based on political lean"?
    No need for political correctness. They both mean the same thing.

    And no, it appears that this "scandal" is once again another big ****ing waste of time and energy.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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