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Thread: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It means that once upon a time the Republicans were far more progressive than Democrats were. Radical Republicans wanted to end slavery and change the social dynamic of the South. Democrats did not.

    It's actually less of a neat little world than yours where the bad stuff is all progressive Democrats.
    What have the 'progressive Democrats' done to improve people lives?

    The discussion is about Chicago with its failing school system and high murder rates, and the 'progressives' have been running this disaster for years. Barrack Obama himself, a progressive's progressive, even organized this devastated community. Now he's doing for the United States what he did for Chicago.

    But if you can tell me what good the progs have done, I'd be pleased to listen.

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course not, you use the media and the IRS to create a Communist world. Duh...
    You should use 'Duh' after all your posts.

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Sure. Look at Detroit. Look at California. Look at America under Obama.

    Regressives.

    I did not argue that the GOP has always been the far more progressive of the two parties.
    I would.

    They Progs still believe the propaganda from the Soviet era that more government involvement in people's lives is 'Progressive' whereas the most revolutionary act in history was freeing man from government suffocation, and that each individual had a soul. Now you see these same Progressives blaming America for all the world's ills and, as usual, defending those who would destroy it.

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I would.

    They Progs still believe the propaganda from the Soviet era that more government involvement in people's lives is 'Progressive' whereas the most revolutionary act in history was freeing man from government suffocation, and that each individual had a soul. Now you see these same Progressives blaming America for all the world's ills and, as usual, defending those who would destroy it.
    My contention was that the GOP was not only the proper "Progressive" Party of the last half of the 1800's, but still is the truly Progressive party, as it seeks to forward individual freedom and opportunity. The liberal poster wanted to argue that the GOP only used to be progressive, which is the stuff of the demented liberal mind.

    Liberals are regressive. Egregiously so.

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    My contention was that the GOP was not only the proper "Progressive" Party of the last half of the 1800's, but still is the truly Progressive party, as it seeks to forward individual freedom and opportunity. The liberal poster wanted to argue that the GOP only used to be progressive, which is the stuff of the demented liberal mind.

    Liberals are regressive. Egregiously so.
    Absolutely. They believe that big government means progress whereas history tells us that's completely wrong. Freedom from big government, as we are learning, is difficult for any people to maintain.

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Perhaps you can document your statement ..............
    right after I'm shown the stats showing that it's the culture ...

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    As long as governments divide us into little race boxes an thatd then treat us differently based on color, ethnicity or other real or imagined divisions then racism will continue.
    yeah, it was the government that created the problem ... read up on it and you'll find that it took guvment intervention to secure black folk their rights ...

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    right after I'm shown the stats showing that it's the culture ...
    So you are unaware of the rates of unwed births by race in the US ? Unaware of the rates of violent crime ? So if it is not culture, what is it ?

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It means that once upon a time the
    Republicans were far more progressive than Democrats were. Radical Republicans wanted to end slavery and change the social dynamic of the South. Democrats did not.

    It's actually less of a neat little world than yours where the bad stuff is all progressive Democrats.
    The Democrats never changed their position on slavery, they just altered the paradigm.

    " Slavery " by way of generational dependency is still slavery.

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    Re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    At least you're asking a question now, or positing a hypothesis (a cultural explanation) for these differences, instead of making an unequivocal statement about what the stats show. You have to be careful that the relationship that you think exists between two variables isn't a spurious one, i.e., that there isn't a third variable that explains the relationship. If we held class constant, i.e., if we compared only blacks and whites from the same social class (same years of educational, wealth, occupational prestige, etc.), would these "racial" differences hold? What do you think?

    BTW, did you know the following?

    "More than half of births to American women younger than 30 are outside marriage, research has found.
    And across all ages, a staggering four in ten women are not married when they have children.
    The data shows the fastest growth in the past 20 years is among white women in their 20s with some college education but no four-year degree."

    The collapse of family life: Most children in U.S. born out of wedlock
    By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
    UPDATED: 22:01 EST, 18 February 2012

    Are these white women acting black?

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