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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I asked, "What blame does the Chicago's Teachers Union share in the problem with Chicago public schools? Be specific and show causation."

    I did not say, "Show me an article from a conservative website that takes the President of CTU's words out of context, but doesn't demonstrate how the union contributes to the problems with Chicago public schools."

    Here are examples of what I meant when I asked, "What blame does the Chicago's Teachers Union share in the problem with Chicago public schools? Be specific and show causation.":

    A non-partisan study showing that the teacher's union has hurt the Chicago public schools.
    A policy that the teacher's union pushed for that is demonstrable bad for schools.

    Can you provide that or something similar or not?
    And why would anyone make that effort for you ? Spend 20-30 minutes or more for what purpose ?

    The minds of most posters here are already made-up. The only question is whether their opinions are rooted in fact (Conservative) or emotion (Liberal). I know from numerous experiences that trying to educate a liberal with facts is to chase one's tail.

    What has not been supported here with a shred of evidence is the original claim by Lewis. That would be the topic of this thread.

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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I know, Conservatives can be so hard to talk to when they're convinced that they're being persecuted.
    I don't think I am being persecuted. I have found, however, that much of the black community has been told a lie that they have been persecuted to such a degree that only with handouts can they achieve anything in their lives.

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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Good to know. I know what to expect now.
    Except you were proven wrong. Listening to sangha, a known troll, won't save you from that. Just admit you got it wrong and move on.

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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    What a joke. Did it ever occur to you that it is the primary job of both ? DUH !!!!
    So trivially obvious I always assume he's trolling, only to be told he's really being serious.

    Every management position is the same, you'd think it's just that obvious. We all end up managing people who have very specific job duties, and as a manager you are responsible, within the bounds of the position, for those peoples results. Clearly both are responsible. Worse, an entire company can be jointly responsible for the companies duties, to uphold the companies policies of no corruption, following the law, etc. The notion that teachers are immune because they have union power to ensure they get paid without the responsibility...that's the real crime we're talking about. And low and behold it's denied at every step.

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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    All the race-centric folks should grow up and call it for what it is. Root cause here is not about race, it's either the system that's broken in some way that can be fixed (dissolution is sometimes a fix, that's a broad term), and/or he's simply not doing his job and playing the blame-game. Blaming race is like name-calling, it's just unprofessional and irrelevant.

    For anyone who manages this sort of thing is discovered and solved every day, millions of times each day around the world. That this particular guy threw the race card in there just confuses the issue for some. It's not about race, someone's not doing a good job, the rest is largely irrelevant. That our public school system is so dysfunctional that it cannot self correct by design should be no surprise. That people can publicly participate in a blame game using absurdities like racial comments, should be no surprise. The system is a dismal failure and we'll continue to watch it flounder until it helps ensure our entire nation fails (students really are the next generation...), or we fix it.

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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    You are actually going to break out the "black culture is inferior" argument? Really?

    Even though clownboy just showed you the how and why of the discrepancies in funding? I suppose the next step for you is to say everyone that doesn't agree with you are the racists.
    Here's a man you may want to pay some attention to. Thomas Sowell - problems with EDUCATION in USA - YouTube

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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I asked, "What blame does the Chicago's Teachers Union share in the problem with Chicago public schools? Be specific and show causation."

    I did not say, "Show me an article from a conservative website that takes the President of CTU's words out of context, but doesn't demonstrate how the union contributes to the problems with Chicago public schools."

    Here are examples of what I meant when I asked, "What blame does the Chicago's Teachers Union share in the problem with Chicago public schools? Be specific and show causation.":

    A non-partisan study showing that the teacher's union has hurt the Chicago public schools.
    A policy that the teacher's union pushed for that is demonstrable bad for schools.

    Can you provide that or something similar or not?
    Do you deny anything that she was quoted as saying?

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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Blame Blacks for what?
    For being Rahm Emanuel, apparently. He turned black at some point, according to the OP.

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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    For being Rahm Emanuel, apparently. He turned black at some point, according to the OP.
    Blacks are Rahm Emanuel? Is this one of those 100 monkeys tests?

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    re: Lewis Points Finger At ‘Rich White People’ For School Problems [W:178]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    While I do agree that blacks need to take more responsibility for themselves, it's still a fact that inner-city schools aren't as good as other public schools. It's probably going a bit far to call it "racism," but that does impact the black community disproportionately.

    Blame whatever you like, but the fact is that the education systems have failed city residents.
    You sound like a conservative, they'll kick you out of the liberal club if keep that up.
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