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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The point is the timing and the value of the trip to the American people. Spending $100 million on a trip that will have no ROI at a time when all Americans are cutting back is just gaudy. If Obama really wants to be a leader he needs to show that he is willing to cut back himself when the American people are feeling the pinch.
    You are just complaining about the president when all of congress receives months off of PAID vacations and perks? Again, it's coming off as whining. I don't disagree with you, but putting all the blame on Obama when past presidents that THE RIGHT SUPPORTED WITH VOTES did the same thing.

    Have you taken a look at how much YOUR representatives spend?

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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Do you and the others on the right understand government budgets and that funds from one budget cannot simply be exchanged into other budgets? I'm just curious if it's ignorance on your part or just purely partisan hackery?
    Budgets imply setting priorities, living within set bounds and making sane (wise?) choices among competing interests and not simply spending without regard to accumulating debt. I agree that this constant federal gov't overspending insanity is not an Obama only policy, and is supported by our congress critters (of both parties), but simply wasting money, because it was made available, is still bad policy.
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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Bulletproof glass to cover windows....if anyone wants to kill somone inside a stucture they don't use bullets. Maybe "da prez" is thinking about a typical day in Chicago with drive bys are a daily event.
    I'm pretty sure that ballistic glass also prevents bombs from being thrown into the rooms.

    With Africa being his place of birth one would think they wold foot the bill for the trip.
    Ok now your comment, above, makes sense.

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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Do you and the others on the right understand government budgets and that funds from one budget cannot simply be exchanged into other budgets? I'm just curious if it's ignorance on your part or just purely partisan hackery?
    My understanding is that Congress gave Obama the option as to where to make the cuts, and he chose to hit those areas important to the Republicans the most. But of course politics played not part in his decisions. Furthermore to my knowledge the sequester was his idea, and he said he would veto any bill sent up to stop it.

    Nevertheless he has been lavishing himself and his family with luxury since he moved into the WH. All during a horrible economy with high unemployment and govt budget cutting.
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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You are just complaining about the president when all of congress receives months off of PAID vacations and perks? Again, it's coming off as whining. I don't disagree with you, but putting all the blame on Obama when past presidents that THE RIGHT SUPPORTED WITH VOTES did the same thing.

    Have you taken a look at how much YOUR representatives spend?
    If you were to divide this trip's cost among all congressmen it would come to $187,000 each. That is more than each congressmen's annual salary.

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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Budgets imply setting priorities, living within set bounds and making sane (wise?) choices among competing interests and not simply spending without regard to accumulating debt. I agree that this constant federal gov't overspending insanity is not an Obama only policy, and is supported by our congress critters (of both parties), but simply wasting money, because it was made available, is still bad policy.
    Yes it is bad policy and I agree that it is. However, it seems only Obama ever gets criticism on it from the right while Boehner and the other righties get a pass with votes.

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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And with that criticism, I have no problem and happen to agree that the government is lousy in that regards. However, for some to act like this has happened with JUST THIS administration is a complete demonstration of ignorance or partisan hackery.
    The difference now is sequestration. Obama spends like royalty while us peasants and serfs suffer his economic wrath.


    WASHINGTON -- As people all over the world gear up for their vacations in America's national parks this summer, they should get ready for dirty toilets, unkempt trails, shuttered campgrounds and fewer educational activities.

    Sequestration Hits National Parks Just In Time For Tourist Season

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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    If you were to divide this trip's cost among all congressmen it would come to $187,000 each. That is more than each congressmen's annual salary.
    Yet, not more than what the congressmen get in perks. Why else would you spend millions of dollars for a job that pays far less than that.

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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yet again, I have no problem with criticizing the government in general on this. However, when the criticism is only applied to Obama and not past and present politicians it looks more like whining.

    In this day and age with conferencing, there is no reason a politician needs to travel back and forth between congress and their hometown. Many meetings can be done with video conferencing. If you want to stop fraud, waste, and abuse it shouldnb't just be with the president but with ALL politicians.

    How about all the perks that politicians in Congress use? Are you railing against all those or are you just passive and go after the president?
    And not only Congress but local politicians in minor roles. My mom works for the county in the register of deeds. The elected official for tht department went a couple months ago to a week long leadership conference in Washingon DC on taxpayers money with another manager in that department. Really, does anyone think someone in that position needs to attend that? Especially as they are cutting jobs and budgets in that same department but can afford to do that? Yet who is questioning what the head of the register of deeds of their local county is doing? Wasteful spending all around and we need to be more aware of it on all levels.
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    Re: Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The difference now is sequestration. Obama spends like royalty while us peasants and serfs suffer his economic wrath.


    WASHINGTON -- As people all over the world gear up for their vacations in America's national parks this summer, they should get ready for dirty toilets, unkempt trails, shuttered campgrounds and fewer educational activities.

    Sequestration Hits National Parks Just In Time For Tourist Season
    And yet again I point out, it's not just Obama. Where is the criticism of Congress? Where was the critisism of Bush and past presidents and congress members? The debt didn't just happen on its own.

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