Page 4 of 9 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 88

Thread: Putin: Didn’t feel isolated, not all G8 leaders agree Assad used chemical weapons

  1. #31
    Sage
    EnigmaO01's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Indiana
    Last Seen
    12-12-17 @ 12:41 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    7,027

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    That post is just a bunch of anti-semitic garbage.
    Agreed. But i have more of a problem with it being borderline incoherent.

  2. #32
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,465

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not really. It's unlikely he could have.
    Based on what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  3. #33
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,465

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    If what you say is true then this is 100%, ABSOLUTE vindication of George W Bush and the lead up to the Iraq war. Somehow, I have to believe that if this was indeed the case there would be a 24-7 media blitz on the subject and there isn't.

    Forgive my skepticism but...c'mon.
    There's been too much hoopla over it. Even if I'm right, thete are too many people that will lose all their credibility.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  4. #34
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,274

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Based on what?
    Careful, this is just Joe's dishonest way of drawing you off topic, and into the age old "Saddam was no threat" debate....In his mind, he thinks that Saddam was a wonderful leader, that the mean ol' Bush wrongly attacked....
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  5. #35
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    lol no. As cpwill implied, there's nothing that stopped Saddam that doesn't currently stop the Ayatollah. And Saddam would've had geographic advantages.

    Is it so horrible to acknowledge that? I mean, I think everyone knows that the situation in the Middle East would be different now if the Iraq invasion hadn't happen, and it's impossible to speculate we'd be sitting here watching this transpire in Syria as it has been without the events in Iraq, but even ignoring all other variables...really?
    Only if you think the two have equal ability. They don't. Not only that, Saddam had more to fear by acting.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  6. #36
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Based on what?

    I think I've explained that already.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  7. #37
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,465

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    easy enough. He was under watch all the time. We even knew when he smuggled oil. So, we'd have to let him for him to do much. By the time the inspectors had finished, we'd have a real good idea what he had, making it even more unlikely. Saddam had a crumpling infastructure, was under heavy sanctions, and had limited ability. He'd be the least of the problems.
    You mean we would ivade Syrian airspace to attack Saddam's arny?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  8. #38
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Last Seen
    11-12-13 @ 04:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    433

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Iraq used chemical weapons at Halabja. No serious work suggests some party other than Iraq was responsible. Speculation aimed at exonerating Iraq is not supported by any credible evidence.

    As for the issue of Saddam purportedly sending WMDs to Syria, I never made any suggestion toward that end. No concrete evidence for that outcome was revealed in the post-war examination.
    You haven't read Pelletiere's story and so there's really no use talking to you about the issue any further. Continue to believe the propaganda that makes you feel most comfortable.

    Your country will likely get itself involved in a war with Syria if it can enlist the UN to aid it's march to war. However, even if the UN isn't willing, and it appears that it isn't, the US will likely just sidestep the UN and use Nato's somewhat lesser credibility over the UN's protests.

    The point being mostly, that Americans screamed loudly about never again being conned into another ME war. It was the major parties who were throwing away the taxpayer's money and it had to stop. The tea baggers of course were the most vocal. And yet, now that the leadup to war is imminent, there is no interest of laying aside what the propagandists have told you all and following through in being more cautious of being conned into another phony war. A war that is, on the face of it, just as phony and for just as phony reasons as the Iraq war.

    It's really quite laughable isn't it! Apparently there is only 20% of the American people who are in favour of increased involvement in Syria, yet that is not the case as that percentage can grow to a majority overnight through a little more propaganda and convincing.

  9. #39
    Tavern Bartender
    Constitutionalist
    American's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    76,306

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The lion's share of Syria's chemical weapons stockpile came from Iraq, when Saddam was in power.

    Good thing Saddam isn't in power, because I'm sure he would be more than happy to come to Assad's aid in defeating the webels.
    But...but Saddam never had any WMD's, right?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

  10. #40
    Tavern Bartender
    Constitutionalist
    American's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    76,306

    Re: US's Anti-Syria Propaganda Stumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    You haven't read Pelletiere's story and so there's really no use talking to you about the issue any further. Continue to believe the propaganda that makes you feel most comfortable.

    Your country will likely get itself involved in a war with Syria if it can enlist the UN to aid it's march to war. However, even if the UN isn't willing, and it appears that it isn't, the US will likely just sidestep the UN and use Nato's somewhat lesser credibility over the UN's protests.

    The point being mostly, that Americans screamed loudly about never again being conned into another ME war. It was the major parties who were throwing away the taxpayer's money and it had to stop. The tea baggers of course were the most vocal. And yet, now that the leadup to war is imminent, there is no interest of laying aside what the propagandists have told you all and following through in being more cautious of being conned into another phony war. A war that is, on the face of it, just as phony and for just as phony reasons as the Iraq war.

    It's really quite laughable isn't it! Apparently there is only 20% of the American people who are in favour of increased involvement in Syria, yet that is not the case as that percentage can grow to a majority overnight through a little more propaganda and convincing.
    So when were they most vocal?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

Page 4 of 9 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •