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    CLYDE, N.Y. (AP) — A man who says he caught four boys vandalizing his father-in-law's home has been charged with child endangerment after corralling them in a closet until police arrived.

    Jesse Daniels was arraigned on four counts of endangering the welfare of a child after authorities say he interrupted the vandalism at the empty home in the Wayne County village of Clyde, midway between Rochester and Syracuse.

    Daniels, 53, told WHAM-TV in Rochester that he heard pounding coming from the home next door the night of June 8. The house is empty while Daniels renovates it for his father-in-law.

    Daniels said he went to investigate while his wife called 911. He said he found four boys, ages 8 and 10, inside with hammers. He took a hammer from one, then stuck the boys in a closet until officers arrived, he said.

    "I was fortunate that they were in that room that had a closet, so I put them in the closet," he said. "I said, 'Listen, you guys are staying here until the police come, period.'"

    Their parents said Daniels handled the boys roughly and threatened them with the hammer.

    The damage to the home included holes in the walls, broken windows and graffiti derogatory to women spray-painted on walls. Daniels estimated that the damage to his father-in-law's property exceeds $40,000.

    He said he believed the boys committed the vandalism in retaliation for Daniels' wife telling them earlier in the day to stay off the couple's property.

    The boys have been charged with burglary and criminal mischief. Their cases are being handled in Wayne County Family Court.

    Paul Bowler, the father of two of the boys, told the station that there are no excuses for his sons' actions.

    "I understand they were in the wrong, but there are other ways to handle it," he said. "He (Daniels) knew who the kids were. It's not like they were strangers. And send the kids home and call the cops then. You don't sit there and torment them and tell them you're going to bash their skulls in with a hammer."

    Bowler said Daniels grabbed the neck of one of his sons and left a mark. He said that his boys are traumatized and that Daniels should have faced more charges.

    Daniels counters that he was just trying to protect his family.

    Daniels is due back in court later this month. It wasn't immediately clear if he has a lawyer.

    Wayne County District Attorney Richard Healy told the station that the incident is still under investigation.

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    Re: ..............NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
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    CLYDE, N.Y. (AP) — A man who says he caught four boys vandalizing his father-in-law's home has been charged with child endangerment after corralling them in a closet until police arrived.

    Jesse Daniels was arraigned on four counts of endangering the welfare of a child after authorities say he interrupted the vandalism at the empty home in the Wayne County village of Clyde, midway between Rochester and Syracuse.

    Daniels, 53, told WHAM-TV in Rochester that he heard pounding coming from the home next door the night of June 8. The house is empty while Daniels renovates it for his father-in-law.

    Daniels said he went to investigate while his wife called 911. He said he found four boys, ages 8 and 10, inside with hammers. He took a hammer from one, then stuck the boys in a closet until officers arrived, he said.

    "I was fortunate that they were in that room that had a closet, so I put them in the closet," he said. "I said, 'Listen, you guys are staying here until the police come, period.'"

    Their parents said Daniels handled the boys roughly and threatened them with the hammer.

    The damage to the home included holes in the walls, broken windows and graffiti derogatory to women spray-painted on walls. Daniels estimated that the damage to his father-in-law's property exceeds $40,000.

    He said he believed the boys committed the vandalism in retaliation for Daniels' wife telling them earlier in the day to stay off the couple's property.

    The boys have been charged with burglary and criminal mischief. Their cases are being handled in Wayne County Family Court.

    Paul Bowler, the father of two of the boys, told the station that there are no excuses for his sons' actions.

    "I understand they were in the wrong, but there are other ways to handle it," he said. "He (Daniels) knew who the kids were. It's not like they were strangers. And send the kids home and call the cops then. You don't sit there and torment them and tell them you're going to bash their skulls in with a hammer."

    Bowler said Daniels grabbed the neck of one of his sons and left a mark. He said that his boys are traumatized and that Daniels should have faced more charges.

    Daniels counters that he was just trying to protect his family.

    Daniels is due back in court later this month. It wasn't immediately clear if he has a lawyer.

    Wayne County District Attorney Richard Healy told the station that the incident is still under investigation.

    NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged
    Did any of the boys receive hospital treatment? Visit a doctor? It's a bit tricky because these kids are minors. But in the real world I used to live in, they'd be in more trouble at home at the police station. Such, apparently, is not the case today. Sad indeed.
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    Re: ..............NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

    In Texas the homeowner could have legally shot and killed the kids for their vandalism
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    Re: ..............NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    ONLY IN A LIBERAL STATE!-Rocketman

    CLYDE, N.Y. (AP) — A man who says he caught four boys vandalizing his father-in-law's home has been charged with child endangerment after corralling them in a closet until police arrived.

    Jesse Daniels was arraigned on four counts of endangering the welfare of a child after authorities say he interrupted the vandalism at the empty home in the Wayne County village of Clyde, midway between Rochester and Syracuse.

    Daniels, 53, told WHAM-TV in Rochester that he heard pounding coming from the home next door the night of June 8. The house is empty while Daniels renovates it for his father-in-law.

    Daniels said he went to investigate while his wife called 911. He said he found four boys, ages 8 and 10, inside with hammers. He took a hammer from one, then stuck the boys in a closet until officers arrived, he said.

    "I was fortunate that they were in that room that had a closet, so I put them in the closet," he said. "I said, 'Listen, you guys are staying here until the police come, period.'"

    Their parents said Daniels handled the boys roughly and threatened them with the hammer.

    The damage to the home included holes in the walls, broken windows and graffiti derogatory to women spray-painted on walls. Daniels estimated that the damage to his father-in-law's property exceeds $40,000.

    He said he believed the boys committed the vandalism in retaliation for Daniels' wife telling them earlier in the day to stay off the couple's property.

    The boys have been charged with burglary and criminal mischief. Their cases are being handled in Wayne County Family Court.

    Paul Bowler, the father of two of the boys, told the station that there are no excuses for his sons' actions.

    "I understand they were in the wrong, but there are other ways to handle it," he said. "He (Daniels) knew who the kids were. It's not like they were strangers. And send the kids home and call the cops then. You don't sit there and torment them and tell them you're going to bash their skulls in with a hammer."

    Bowler said Daniels grabbed the neck of one of his sons and left a mark. He said that his boys are traumatized and that Daniels should have faced more charges.

    Daniels counters that he was just trying to protect his family.

    Daniels is due back in court later this month. It wasn't immediately clear if he has a lawyer.

    Wayne County District Attorney Richard Healy told the station that the incident is still under investigation.

    NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged
    When I was a kid you could get a spanking from a neighbor.

    And woe be unto you if you made a neighbor spank you.

    This sends COMPLETELY the wrong message to the kids.

    And what are the odds the little.bastards are lying through their teeth? I've seen kids pull the "touch me and go to jail card".
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    Re: ..............NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Did any of the boys receive hospital treatment? Visit a doctor? It's a bit tricky because these kids are minors. But in the real world I used to live in, they'd be in more trouble at home at the police station. Such, apparently, is not the case today. Sad indeed.
    Sad that the police would let criminals slide "in your day," yes.
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    Re: ..............NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Did any of the boys receive hospital treatment? Visit a doctor? It's a bit tricky because these kids are minors. But in the real world I used to live in, they'd be in more trouble at home at the police station. Such, apparently, is not the case today. Sad indeed.
    Oh the boys are in enough trouble where the parents concerns are probably towards legal fees right now. Felony burglary charges are no joke.
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    Re: ..............NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

    I'm sure those four kids will grow up into human beings of great benefit to society! The parents of the children should be facing charges for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, the home-owner should walk away scotch-free, and the children should face strong disciplinary actions from parents "who probably have no idea how to discipline a child."
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    Re: ..............NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Sad that the police would let criminals slide "in your day," yes.
    I think she was referring to when people sorted things out without involving the state more.

    There was a lot more discretion exercised by cops, too. Getting drug home with no report being filed, for instance.

    Humans sorted a LOT of stuff out amongst themselves for tens of thousands of years before force monopolies.
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    Re: ..............NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Sad that the police would let criminals slide "in your day," yes.
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    Re: ..............NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

    If Daniels really did sit outside the door telling the kids he would bash their skulls in with a hammer I could see it. Not that those kids don't deserve to be punished as well.
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