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Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

That argument doesn't even make sense. That is the exact opposite of how it was intended.

Where do they find these justices that somehow get everything backwards?

i believe Scalila and Roberts are conservative appointees. liberals had nothing to do with them.
 
Where's your proof?

It appears I am wrong.

I now know that for at least my state, no citizenship verification takes place.

British on a long holiday who rent an apartment could register to vote.
 
But why would the if they know they could go to jail for a long time then have a felony on their record?
It appears I am wrong.

I now know that for at least my state, no citizenship verification takes place.

British on a long holiday who rent an apartment could register to vote.
 
Somewhere in the depths of space, there is a way for government entities to verify who is and is not a citizen of the United States.

I guarantee it.

Fine. Which databases do they use? [Hint: Don't waste too much time looking.]
 
But why would the if they know they could go to jail for a long time then have a felony on their record?

If no one is looking into it what's there to fear?

Proof of residency? check.

Now you can vote.
 
It appears I am wrong.

I now know that for at least my state, no citizenship verification takes place.

British on a long holiday who rent an apartment could register to vote.

With the SCOTUS ruling the current format in Arizona (my home state) is to register in good faith. There just isn't the man power or resources to verify everyone's status.
 
Guys and gals, boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen, its very simple.

We shoudl verify the citizenship status of voter registrations.

Either do it by requiring folks to bring proof of citizenship at the time of registration, or make the states do it on their own time.

But one way or the other we must verify that you have the ****ing right to vote.

but... but... but that would defeat the whole purpose of facilitating the registration of Democratic voters!
 
I understand where the left is coming from on this issue, I really do. I agree that the process of getting registered should be easy, and the process of voting should be easy. However, I fail to understand were it's required by law to be a US citizen on the federal level and it's required by law to be a resident of the state on the state level why it shouldn't be required to prove it in order to vote.

Because it interferes with the registration of low-information and possibly fraudulent Democratic voters. Let's be honest.
 
With the SCOTUS ruling the current format in Arizona (my home state) is to register in good faith. There just isn't the man power or resources to verify everyone's status.

How about just the citizenship status of new voters?

This is why we need a national ID card. Too bad Conservatives see this as the Mark of the Beast and the New World Order.
 
Was the illegal votes "hanging chads?" (if I remember correctly) or busloads of them people? I dont beleive voter fraud is a problem, no matter which side says it is. I think if it was and a couple of people got busted and spent a long time in jail with felony conviction I bet there would be even less the next election.

Yeah, just like all those people in prison right now due to drugs huh? :roll:
 
When we fill out the standard voter registration form, our citizenship is confirmed by the voter registration people.

No need to provide photo ID, BC, Passport, or whatever at the time of registration.

No foreigner can register to vote using the standard form.

Just how exactly do they do that? Also how do they do that on the day of voting when people show up without having registered? You know, the same day that a Presidential winner is selected....
 
How about just the citizenship status of new voters?

This is why we need a national ID card. Too bad Conservatives see this as the Mark of the Beast and the New World Order.

As someone who leans to the right, I'm not against a national ID card.
 
Low and behold, it does appear that at least one state in the Union (mine) does not verify the claim of citizenship on voter registration forms. We simply take your word for it and will prosecute your ass if you are lying.

That's crap.

I like to see people when they have that "Come to Jesus" moment.

I commend your integrity in this discussion.
 
Exactly how do you think drugs and voting are the same?

Our last election proves that a majority of voters were on drugs. :)
 
They can fill out an absentee ballot but their vote will not be counted until their voter registration is confirmed.

My 2012 votes weren't finally counted as part of the election until 2 months ago.

In otherwords LONG after President Obama was declared the winner AND long after he was sworn in....and you TRUST that system?
 
In otherwords LONG after President Obama was declared the winner AND long after he was sworn in....and you TRUST that system?

The system needs to change.

All citizens should have a government provided national ID card.

Or, all citizens should have a state government provided state ID card that follows national standards for design, info, and biometrics.

Too bad Conservatives consider this the Mark of the Beast and the New World Order.
 
I just checked the Missouri's registration application by mail. I've never voted out of Missouri so was unfamiliar with its requirements.

http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/register2vote/Pettis.pdf

A couple of check boxes asking if you are a US citizen, place of birth which is (optional), social security number which you can leave blank, drivers license number which you can also leave blank. Then a place to sign where you agree that you are a US citizen.

No where do I see any "proof" of citizenship requirement.

Honestly, am I missing something? or does it appear you only have to sign it stating that you are a US citizen?

If anyone happened to look at your link....did anyone notice where it said "If you do not have a Social Security number please leave blank"..................

REALLY? Social Security numbers are the closest thing that we have to an actual database of American Citizens and they are quite fine with leaving it blank? Since they say that you can leave it blank one can only assume that they don't even check the ones that do leave their SS number.
 
The system needs to change.

All citizens should have a government provided national ID card.

Or, all citizens should have a state government provided state ID card that follows national standards for design, info, and biometrics.

Too bad Conservatives consider this the Mark of the Beast and the New World Order.

Or just a pain in the ass because you are going to have to carry two ID's around. It is hard enough to deal with the DMV as is. My plan of doing away with voting for President and just letting the state legislatures decide how to allocate their electors is a much more workable and cheap system.
 
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