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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    I registered to vote, I helped my daughter register. That's an interesting story. It was 2000 and my daughter had just turned 18. We are obviously Jewish and the woman taking the form gaily said to my daughter, "Just think, your first vote will be for Joe Lieberman!" When my daughter replied, "ummm, errrr, not really...." the lady lost her temper and threatened to tear up the registration form rather than process it.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    My understanding is the case is about whether a state can add their own requirements, without federal input.

    It seems the answer is no.

    However:

    News from The Associated Press

    While the court was clear in stating that states cannot add additional identification requirements to the federal forms on their own, it was also clear that the same actions can be taken by state governments if they get the approval of the federal government and the federal courts.

    Arizona can ask the federal government to include the extra documents as a state-specific requirement, Scalia said, and take any decision made by the government on that request back to court. Other states have already done so, Scalia said.

    The Election Assistance Commission "recently approved a state-specific instruction for Louisiana requiring applicants who lack a Louisiana driver's license, ID card or Social Security number to attach additional documentation to the completed federal form," Scalia said.
    you are correct, ..i just went to the heart of the matter, on what AZ was doing.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Why should it be limited to humans?

    Hell why should we be limited to one vote?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

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    But you didn't ask what they do after you leave the building.
    She got her voter registration card a couple of weeks later.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It is limited to US citizens. We're you under the impression this has changed?
    I'm talking mainly about a mentality.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    My understanding is the case is about whether a state can add their own requirements, without federal input.

    It seems the answer is no.

    However:

    News from The Associated Press

    While the court was clear in stating that states cannot add additional identification requirements to the federal forms on their own, it was also clear that the same actions can be taken by state governments if they get the approval of the federal government and the federal courts.

    Arizona can ask the federal government to include the extra documents as a state-specific requirement, Scalia said, and take any decision made by the government on that request back to court. Other states have already done so, Scalia said.

    The Election Assistance Commission "recently approved a state-specific instruction for Louisiana requiring applicants who lack a Louisiana driver's license, ID card or Social Security number to attach additional documentation to the completed federal form," Scalia said.

    Yep. Another way to tell the States to keep in line. If they are all supposed to be the same, you have to wonder how long till there is just one.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Surely nobody would lie about being a citizen.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you are correct, ..i just went to the heart of the matter, on what AZ was doing.
    It will be interesting to see what happens with the provision in the voter registration law that requires applicants to swear under penalty of perjury that they are US Citizens.

    Will there be much defense of the law put up by the authorities having jurisdiction?

    How will election commissions know if voters have willfully purjured themselves in their applications?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, the Supreme Court is part of our system of checks and balances, designed to keep a group of crazies from running over the Constitutional rights of others. Seems that, in this case, the system is working good.
    I am very familiar with what they were supposed to be and what they have become instead. Noted that you feel comfortable with a ruling council.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Surely nobody would lie about being a citizen.
    40+ years when I registered for the first time, I had to present my birth certificate. It seemed pretty routine at the time.
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