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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is absolutely untrue. No one would be prevented from voting. People are SUPPOSED to have identification anyway.

    Voter fraud is MUCH more costly in the long run.
    We are not required to have ID in the U.S.

    Spending hundreds of millions to get a hundred people is not a money saver.

    It is political ploy.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    We are not required to have ID in the U.S.
    That depends on where you live and that's besides the point. The point is that it is stupid to just ignore voter fraud and to do nothing to try to prevent it. Really, really stupid.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That depends on where you live and that's besides the point. The point is that it is stupid to just ignore voter fraud and to do nothing to try to prevent it. Really, really stupid.
    No one ignores it. We check and very little happens so it isn't a problem.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    No one ignores it. We check and very little happens so it isn't a problem.
    This is a cop out. Yes, the problem has been being ignored. Obviously you didn't read the link I posted.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Here's another link about how difficult it is to detect voter fraud. The legalistic definition for voter fraud is when one person impersonates another and casts a vote, but there are other ways in which voter fraud is committed. As of right now, we don't have any definitive good ways to discover voter fraud. According to this article and others, absentee ballot fraud is MUCH more common and voter ID laws would not effect that, but I still don't see that as being a reason to NOT require a voter ID. Especially since the experts pretty much agree that it is a vague crime that is difficult to discover.

    Voter Fraud: Hard to Identify - WSJ.com

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In a 7-2 decision, the Supreme court has struck down a law that disenfranchised voters in Arizona. Justice Scalia wrote the majority opinion, and John Roberts was also a part of the majority decision.

    Well done, Supremes.

    Article is here.
    It's a good day for progressives and their fight for voter fraud....

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    We are not required to have ID in the U.S.

    Spending hundreds of millions to get a hundred people is not a money saver.

    It is political ploy.
    Really?

    You know what? you cant do anything legal in the US without an ID.....

    You cant have a job without an ID, you cant buy or rent a house without an ID, you cant legally drive a car without an ID, you cant have a checking account without an ID, you cant get loans or a credit card without an ID, you cant smoke or drink without an ID, you cant buy insurance without an ID....

    Name one thing someone can do without an ID that isn't voting????

    The only people who benefit from this ruling are those who intend to commit voter fraud and illegal aliens.....

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Here's another link about how difficult it is to detect voter fraud. The legalistic definition for voter fraud is when one person impersonates another and casts a vote, but there are other ways in which voter fraud is committed. As of right now, we don't have any definitive good ways to discover voter fraud. According to this article and others, absentee ballot fraud is MUCH more common and voter ID laws would not effect that, but I still don't see that as being a reason to NOT require a voter ID. Especially since the experts pretty much agree that it is a vague crime that is difficult to discover.

    Voter Fraud: Hard to Identify - WSJ.com
    It doesn't matter if its hard or easy, you have to prove it when you claim it. That's just the way it works. And rightly so.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It doesn't matter if its hard or easy, you have to prove it when you claim it. That's just the way it works. And rightly so.
    If I wanted to I could commit epic voter fraud.

    You can register to vote under any pseudonym you want - especially under "grass roots" registration drives...

    Without question progressives don't care if you vote 10-20 or 100 times under pseudonyms because they don't give a **** - as a matter of fact in urban areas they condone it.... That's why ACORN got popped...

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It doesn't matter if its hard or easy, you have to prove it when you claim it. That's just the way it works. And rightly so.
    Wrong. Obviously you didn't read the link either.

    "I reject the premise" that establishing the extent of voter fraud is important, said J. Christian Adams, an election lawyer in Alexandria, Va., and advocate for voter-ID laws. "One unit of voter fraud is bad, and should be dealt with." He cited a Supreme Court decision in 2008 ruling that Indiana didn't need to establish that voter fraud existed in the state to pass a voter-ID law.

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