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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    How do you know your vote has never been stolen? How do you know you're not registered in some other county, some other state even and voting regularly?

    About ten years ago I started receiving W2s under my name and social security number from another state I had never even visited.
    I know my vote isn't stolen because I use it myself. We only get one.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Funny that people say there is no problem with voter fraud. I found this on the internet, and BTW this is one of the non-profit organizations that was under "investigation" by the IRS. Very interesting.

    How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Funny that people say there is no problem with voter fraud. I found this on the internet, and BTW this is one of the non-profit organizations that was under "investigation" by the IRS. Very interesting.

    How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures
    wow 300,000 dead people still registered. People don't magically come off documents when they die. People die every day. About 3 million people a year so only 300 k still on documents at any one time is not a problem.

    None if the statistics listed show a problem.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    wow 300,000 dead people still registered. People don't magically come off documents when they die. People die every day. About 3 million people a year so only 300 k still on documents at any one time is not a problem.

    None if the statistics listed show a problem.
    If you read the link you would see that certain states have been quite neglectful about purging names of deceased and other invalid registered voters from their roles.

    More than 24 million voter registrations are invalid, yet remain on the rolls nation-wide.

    Also:

    How popular is Voter ID?

    74 percent of Americans support, according to The Washington Post.
    71 percent of Latinos support it, according to the PEW Research Center.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If you read the link you would see that certain states have been quite neglectful about purging names of deceased and other invalid registered voters from their roles.




    Also:
    There still is no problem. The link showed there are very few dead who have not been removed. Some dead people still pay cable with auto bill pay.

    So our system works very well.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    There still is no problem. The link showed there are very few dead who have not been removed. Some dead people still pay cable with auto bill pay.

    So our system works very well.
    Of course it's a problem. Only someone wearing blinders would deny that having invalid voters on the registry for years and years and years is in any way a responsible way of maintaining proper voter records. Hence, you would not be able to prevent fraud from occurring in a lot of cases.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Of course it's a problem. Only someone wearing blinders would deny that having invalid voters on the registry for years and years and years is in any way a responsible way of maintaining proper voter records. Hence, you would not be able to prevent fraud from occurring in a lot of cases.
    No human endeavor can be perfect.

    The number of invalid registered voters is not significant in % of population. Our system works and improperly registered are removed.

    300k out of 300 million is not a problem.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Nobody does it. You have no proof they do. Dead people dont end up voting, did you read the article? In SC there was a handful that are not positively legit, not that they are fraudlent, just not for sure. A hand full out of millions that could still possibly be fraudlent. Comeon man, it aint a problem. It is almost like the RW just makes up stuff....oh wait.
    Generations of Chicago politicians have used the dead, you want to bury your head in the sand, fine. Once again how would you know if someone is using your identity to vote in another state that doesn't require ID (especially if they restrict themselves to voting in state and local elections)? How would the state possibly know without ID that your identity is voting in several states?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    I know my vote isn't stolen because I use it myself. We only get one.
    That's hilarious. Again, how do you know someone is not registered as you in another county, another state?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's hilarious. Again, how do you know someone is not registered as you in another county, another state?
    I have only lived in Ohio and Tx. I am a resident only in Tx. That is how I know. My social is not being used other places. The background checks for work would have caught any shenanigans.

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