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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Agree to disagree.
    hundreds out of hundreds of millions is not a problem.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    hundreds out of hundreds of millions is not a problem.
    Like I said, agree to disagree. We have a fundemental differnce. We will solve it through the political process.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    VOTER OPPRESSION???? You mean like trying to keep illegals from voting? Is that what you call voter suppression??

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by tommytunes View Post
    VOTER OPPRESSION???? You mean like trying to keep illegals from voting? Is that what you call voter suppression??
    No like changing the rules so the elderly and minorities with no id can't vote.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Despite these scary words from South Carolina's attorney general on FoxNews (where else?) in early 2012

    "We just recently learned that there are over 900 individuals who had died before the election (and had voted) and at least 600 of those individuals had died way outside the window that an absentee ballot could have been sent, so we know for a fact that there are deceased people whose identities are being used in elections in South Carolina."
    The AG was aided by DMV director, Kevin Shwedo, who testified before a SC House committee: “Well over 900 individuals appear to have voted after they died”

    It now looks like it was yet one more fine example of GOP pols using scary mantras to justify voter suppression laws.

    Report: no widespread fraud found in SC elections

    COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- No one intentionally cast a ballot in South Carolina using the names of dead people in recent elections, despite allegations to the contrary, according to a State Law Enforcement Division report obtained Friday by The Associated Press.

    Attorney General Alan Wilson asked the agency to investigate last year after the Department of Motor Vehicles determined in early 2012 that more than 900 people listed as deceased also had voted in recent years.

    Wilson referred the information to state police, saying that the number of people cited in the analysis "is an alarming number and clearly necessitates an investigation into criminal activity."

    State Election Commission director Marci Andino had her staff take a look at questionable votes from the November 2010 general election, or about 200 of the more than 900 votes total - information that was also ultimately analyzed by the law enforcement division. Nearly half of the issues could be attributed to clerical errors, while several dozen resulted from DMV officials running Social Security numbers of voters against dead people but not seeing if the names matched.

    Several other issues arose from ballots cast by men with the same names as their deceased fathers.

    Of the 207 cases Andino's agency examined, only a handful remained unexplained, according to the commission and the Law Enforcement Division.
    Maybe Mr Shwedo should be more concerned with training his employees at the DMV since Nearly half of the issues could be attributed to clerical errors
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    A handful, not that for sure cheated, in all of SC? This must be stopped. Maybe the GOP can demand DNA testing and a complete physical before allowing anyone to vote next year. A handful. OOOh the outrage. Doesnt this ever get embaressing?
    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Despite these scary words from South Carolina's attorney general on FoxNews (where else?) in early 2012



    The AG was aided by DMV director, Kevin Shwedo, who testified before a SC House committee: “Well over 900 individuals appear to have voted after they died”

    It now looks like it was yet one more fine example of GOP pols using scary mantras to justify voter suppression laws.



    Maybe Mr Shwedo should be more concerned with training his employees at the DMV since Nearly half of the issues could be attributed to clerical errors
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    The system works fine my vote has never been stolen and I know of no one that has had it happen. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
    How do you know your vote has never been stolen? How do you know you're not registered in some other county, some other state even and voting regularly?

    About ten years ago I started receiving W2s under my name and social security number from another state I had never even visited.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Why would anyone take the risk of a felony conviction to vote? almost certainly that vote would not change the outcome of the election anyway. Our voting laws are a good example of the penalty generally preventing the crime. I wonder why the right wingers are so focused on fixing something that aint broke, when so many things are broke? Hummmmm.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    How do you know your vote has never been stolen? How do you know you're not registered in some other county, some other state even and voting regularly?

    About ten years ago I started receiving W2s under my name and social security number from another state I had never even visited.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Why would anyone take the risk of a felony conviction to vote? almost certainly that vote would not change the outcome of the election anyway. Our voting laws are a good example of the penalty generally preventing the crime. I wonder why the right wingers are so focused on fixing something that aint broke, when so many things are broke? Hummmmm.
    When you're voting with someone else's identity you just might figure, how are they going to catch me? It's not like we're going to ask for ID. How do dead people end up voting? They don't seem to be able to catch the live bodies who cast those dead votes now do they?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Nobody does it. You have no proof they do. Dead people dont end up voting, did you read the article? In SC there was a handful that are not positively legit, not that they are fraudlent, just not for sure. A hand full out of millions that could still possibly be fraudlent. Comeon man, it aint a problem. It is almost like the RW just makes up stuff....oh wait.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    When you're voting with someone else's identity you just might figure, how are they going to catch me? It's not like we're going to ask for ID. How do dead people end up voting? They don't seem to be able to catch the live bodies who cast those dead votes now do they?
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