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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Looks like the only thing left to say is: "Welcome home, Mexico!"

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Was it because they were poor, or because they chose not to? The former is what was claimed.
    Poor is one reason. Chose not to another. Put them together.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Its a safe assumption. But more to the point, show me a poor person who cant afford a $10 ID.
    10 bucks might be chump change to you or me, but to a lot of poor people, it's food for a couple of days, and a barrier to them getting ID. And that kind of a barrier amounts to a poll tax. That kind of modern Jim Crow ain't gonna fly.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Poor is one reason. Chose not to another. Put them together.
    They were so poor they couldnt afford $10? Is it possible they spent $10 on something else that they didnt need, which could have gone to getting an ID?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    10 bucks might be chump change to you or me, but to a lot of poor people, it's food for a couple of days.
    Its chump change to a lot of poor people too. Again, show me a poor person who cant afford $10. Ive seen poor people getting $10 an hour begging for it outside walmart. Poor in this country means anywhere up to $10,000 a year.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    They were so poor they couldnt afford $10? Is it possible they spent $10 on something else that they didnt need, which could have gone to getting an ID?
    It isnt just the 10. There is expense in time. He worked in coal mines. He couldnt just take off work to travel to Charleston to get a birth certificate. The expense of travel. Many formes. Explaining why you didnt get one before.
    This process can take a lot of time and effort and money.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    It isnt just the 10. There is expense in time. He worked in coal mines. He couldnt just take off work to travel to Charleston to get a birth certificate. The expense of travel. Many formes. Explaining why you didnt get one before.
    This process can take a lot of time and effort and money.
    Youre just making excuses now.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Youre just making excuses now.
    Explaining the realities of life.

    It isnt just $10. It is expensive and takes many hours of effort.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    It isnt just the 10. There is expense in time. He worked in coal mines. He couldnt just take off work to travel to Charleston to get a birth certificate. The expense of travel. Many formes. Explaining why you didnt get one before.
    This process can take a lot of time and effort and money.
    I agree. When my wife lost her ID a few years ago, when her purse was snatched, this is what we had to do....

    1) Get her birth certificate from Minnesota. Cost of that was 25 bucks.

    2) Get another Social Security card. Cost was free, but we had to wait 6 hours at the Social Security office. Card came in the mail about 3 weeks later.

    3) Go to the DMV and get photo ID. Cost of that was another 16 bucks, and took 2 more hours. Glad we have a car, because there are no bus lines there. A cab would have cost us another 30 bucks. Didn't get photo ID that time, because SS card and birth certificate was not enough. They wanted proof that my wife lived at the address listed. Had to go back home and find 2 pieces of mail addressed to her. Luckily we found that. Went back to DMV and got in line for about 1 hour this time.

    4) Temporary ID was given her, and Photo ID came in the mail about a month later.

    The whole process was a huge pain in the ass.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I agree. When my wife lost her ID a few years ago, when her purse was snatched, this is what we had to do....

    1) Get her birth certificate from Minnesota. Cost of that was 25 bucks.

    2) Get another Social Security card. Cost was free, but we had to wait 6 hours at the Social Security office. Card came in the mail about 3 weeks later.

    3) Go to the DMV and get photo ID. Cost of that was another 16 bucks, and took 2 more hours. Glad we have a car, because there are no bus lines there. A cab would have cost us another 30 bucks. Didn't get photo ID that time, because SS card and birth certificate was not enough. They wanted proof that my wife lived at the address listed. Had to go back home and find 2 pieces of mail addressed to her. Luckily we found that. Went back to DMV and got in line for about 1 hour this time.

    4) Temporary ID was given her, and Photo ID came in the mail about a month later.

    The whole process was a huge pain in the ass.
    Imagine if you were born at home 60 years ago and didnt get a ss number. It is very hard to get these things done and far more expensive than $10

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