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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    The fact that it keeps happening indiciates it isnt being dealth with.
    WHAT!!!! Where do you get that from?

    We have laws and we deal with it.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    That seems like a lot of time, money, and manpower to address a non-existent or, at minimum, microscopic problem. I've never heard of a single case of in-person voter fraud at the polls. The problem has always been with absentee ballots. How are ID laws going to resolve anonymous fraud?
    I agree that the whole voter fraud issue is not really a significant problem. But if we have to impose an ID requirement there should be funding for education and outreach and time given for voters to comply, as usually happens with new regulations affecting business.

    Requiring IDs to register might reduce some absentee voter fraud. But, again, its probably not a big enough problem to bother.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Poor people usually don't have photo ID because they cannot afford to obtain the documentation required, and can't afford to pay for the ID. That amounts to a poll tax.

    However, if state governments want to assume the costs for people to obtain photo ID, for the purpose of voting, then I would be in favor of requiring ID when registering to vote.
    Poor people have IDs. That's how they get welfare, alcohol, all manner of things. They have cars, they have drivers licenses. However, I have no problem with providing them an ID in the form of a voter registration card with a photo on it.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    WHAT!!!! Where do you get that from?

    We have laws and we deal with it.
    Its LOGICAL!!!!!!. If we were dealing with it, it would stop.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Its LOGICAL!!!!!!. If we were dealing with it, it would stop.
    What is logical about pretending that passing a law against something and enforcing it when lawbreakers are convicted prevents it from every happening again?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Poor people have IDs. That's how they get welfare, alcohol, all manner of things. They have cars, they have drivers licenses. However, I have no problem with providing them an ID in the form of a voter registration card with a photo on it.
    So, if someone is poor, you automatically assume that he or she is on welfare, and drinks alcohol all the time?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    This is another one of those facts the far right wing in this country knows that no one else in the world understands.
    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So, if someone is poor, you automatically assume that he or she is on welfare, and drinks alcohol all the time?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Poor people have IDs. That's how they get welfare, alcohol, all manner of things. They have cars, they have drivers licenses. However, I have no problem with providing them an ID in the form of a voter registration card with a photo on it.
    Not true. My dads family is from West Virginia. He had 8 brothers and sisters. They were poor. I have two uncles that never had id and one that didnt even get a social security number. That is not unheard of there.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So, if someone is poor, you automatically assume that he or she is on welfare, and drinks alcohol all the time?
    Its a safe assumption. But more to the point, show me a poor person who cant afford a $10 ID.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Not true. My dads family is from West Virginia. He had 8 brothers and sisters. They were poor. I have two uncles that never had id and one that didnt even get a social security number. That is not unheard of there.
    Was it because they were poor, or because they chose not to? The former is what was claimed.

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