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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Have either of you read the dissenting opinions?
    There were only 2 dissents. There were 7 in favor, which makes those dissents moot.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There were only 2 dissents. There were 7 in favor, which makes those dissents moot.
    Only to those who would not care to know the reasoning which, IMHO, would be exactly the direction I would have taken...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Only to those who would not care to know the reasoning which, IMHO, would be exactly the direction I would have taken...
    And when has anybody ever seen you give the same consideration to decisions on abortion, which, by the way, had twice as many dissents as this?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And when has anybody ever seen you give the same consideration to decisions on abortion, which, by the way, had twice as many dissents as this?
    I only do fly byes on the abortion threads. Do you have a relevant point to make? If so, I'm here for about 10 minutes...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I only do fly byes on the abortion threads. Do you have a relevant point to make? If so, I'm here for about 10 minutes...
    You just made the point yourself. You only do fly byes, and don't demand people look at dissents, if it is something that SCOTUS rules on that goes your way, but of course, you demand that people look at the dissents if the decision does not go your way on something you DO support. It is stated in your own words, that I have just quoted for posterity.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You just made the point yourself. You only do fly byes, and don't demand people look at dissents, if it is something that SCOTUS rules on that goes your way, but of course, you demand that people look at the dissents if the decision does not go your way on something you DO support. It is stated in your own words, that I have just quoted for posterity.
    Listen, you brought abortion into the conversation, and I responded appropriately in that it's a subject that doesn't really interest me. I don't demand people look at the dissents (I can only lead a horse to water...), but if you were to, you might see the sound Constitutional reasoning behind it...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Listen, you brought abortion into the conversation, and I responded appropriately in that it's a subject that doesn't really interest me. I don't demand people look at the dissents (I can only lead a horse to water...), but if you were to, you might see the sound Constitutional reasoning behind it...
    Like you see the Constitutional reasoning behind abortion decisions? Yea, right.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes. I have seen some figures that a very teeny tiny number of people are convicted of voter fraud. And they are punished under the law for those offenses. And that is how it should be.

    We had a particularly ugly case of election fraud here in Michigan that went on for several years undetected until it was discovered.

    Thaddeus McCotter petition fraud case fallout: How does Michigan stamp out fraud? | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

    So why are we then embracing new restrictions on voting for ALL PEOPLE in order to combat a rather tiny problem that is already being dealt with in the law today?
    The fact that it keeps happening indiciates it isnt being dealth with. And it would be nieve to assume that there isnt more happening that isnt being caught. How exactly is proving your identity a restriction? We do it all the time, to access our money, get on a plane, drive a car. What harm is done by requiring peopel to show a ID when they vote?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    The fact that it keeps happening indiciates it isnt being dealth with. And it would be nieve to assume that there isnt more happening that isnt being caught. How exactly is proving your identity a restriction? We do it all the time, to access our money, get on a plane, drive a car. What harm is done by requiring peopel to show a ID when they vote?
    Poor people usually don't have photo ID because they cannot afford to obtain the documentation required, and can't afford to pay for the ID. That amounts to a poll tax.

    However, if state governments want to assume the costs for people to obtain photo ID, for the purpose of voting, then I would be in favor of requiring ID when registering to vote.
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