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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    The "problem" is that minorities and poor people vote.

    That's the "problem" they are trying to solve.
    To be more accurate:
    The "problem" is that minorities and poor people tend to vote for Democrats.

    That's the "problem" they are trying to solve.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Absolutely absurd. I don't understand how making somebody prove they are a citizen is unconstitutional.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You have to show an ID to buy a gun, but not to vote. Makes sense to me...lol!
    You do in my state.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    For those who claim that we need to do things to crack down on the problem of voter election fraud, please present your evidence that there is a signficant or widespread problem of voter election fraud that would require a different approach than the current laws which deal with voter fraud. .

    I would love to see the verifiable statistics quantifying the "problem".
    Do you accept that there is any fraud at all? People voting who shouldnt be able to, voting for other people, voting more than once?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Very very little. The very minimal gain (one vote of millions) is not worth the penalty.
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    Do you accept that there is any fraud at all?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Very very little. The very minimal gain (one vote of millions) is not worth the penalty.
    What about for that one person whose vote was stolen? Or the person who lost an election on just a few votes? What harm is there in simply requiring people to prove they are eligible to vote? Or that they are the person who registered to vote?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Research commissioned by the Pew Center on the States highlights the extent of the challenge:
    Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.
    More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.
    Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.

    Inaccurate, Costly, and Inefficient: Evidence That America
    We arent talking about one in a million here, but a million in millions. We dont know the extent of the problem because no one is investigating.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Do you have any evidence there has ever been an election swayed by fraudlent voters?

    By the way, I have no problem with requiring ID to vote. But the default position should be to allow the person to vote and investigate later if anything is fishy. If someone did fraudlently vote prosecute them to the max, and make sure it is on the News big time. The next election no one would cheat, if anyone does.
    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    What about for that one person whose vote was stolen? Or the person who lost an election on just a few votes? What harm is there in simply requiring people to prove they are eligible to vote? Or that they are the person who registered to vote?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Why not? Are the Republicans so inept they cannot investigate something they know exists? A million voters, the Repubs ought to be able to nab thousands. What was there last election? 13 in Ohio?
    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    We arent talking about one in a million here, but a million in millions. We dont know the extent of the problem because no one is investigating.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Make people have valid photo ID/Birth certificates to get their public benefits and make them re-enroll at least once every 4 years. There is more than 1 way to skin a cat.

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