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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    We have one already. It's called a Social Security Card.
    The Social Security card has only two bits of data. Your full name and your Social Security number.

    It doesn't list your height, weight, place of birth, place of residence, eye color, race, or hair color.

    It has no photograph.

    And non-citizens can get a Social Security card.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It was something that was discussed at a CLE seminar I was at. The panelists went off on some aside and were telling a story of some politician or another in my state vowing that on the pending case on whether or not something like 3 minutes per parole case was legal, he vowed that if the answer was no, the feds were paying for it or parole was ending in the state because our state wasn't spending another dime setting criminals free. When the case came down against 3 minute or whatever it was hearings, the guy got parole abolished by the legislature. I'll look for a more authoritative source when I get the chance.
    sounds like either a very important politician or a very weak state legislature. Course it begs the question why would a parole board HAVE to set a criminal free? In Oklahoma it is quite often the other way round with only court ordered releases due to extreme overcrowding really lubing the way out.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Any links to back up those claims Deuce?
    Why? Would those links change your mind regarding ID laws? Let's say for the sake of argument that everything in that post is true.

    Because otherwise I'm much too lazy to chase down those links again.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    I believe this will have to go one way or the other. As it stands right now this decision puts right in the taint region of voter ID. Either you should have to prove citizenship or just let anyone who can find the polls vote.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In a 7-2 decision, the Supreme court has struck down a law that disenfranchised voters in Arizona. Justice Scalia wrote the majority opinion, and John Roberts was also a part of the majority decision.

    Well done, Supremes.

    Article is here.
    Spoken like a true liberal.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Was the illegal votes "hanging chads?" (if I remember correctly) or busloads of them people? I dont beleive voter fraud is a problem, no matter which side says it is. I think if it was and a couple of people got busted and spent a long time in jail with felony conviction I bet there would be even less the next election.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    The Social Security card has only two bits of data. Your full name and your Social Security number.

    It doesn't list your height, weight, place of birth, place of residence, eye color, race, or hair color.

    It has no photograph.

    And non-citizens can get a Social Security card.
    and the SS card is NOT to be used as an ID.

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    The social security act specifically states that the social security number or card is NOT to be used for identification purposes. It was made illegal to do so - with the fear of reviving the Nazi reliance on identificaion papers in the previous war. A decade or more ago, many companies who had been using that number for tracking accounts were forced to change their systems.
    the national ID card will be an approved identification issued by state DMVs. It will serve as a legal photo-identification for anyone (including non-drivers) who possess one. It is not a substitute for a social-security card, nor does it rely on the social security number for identification."


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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Spoken like a true liberal.
    Scalia and Roberts are Liberals? LMAO. You are a funny guy.

    Seriously, though, whatever you think my lean is has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. Do you have anything to say about the decision itself? If not, I would appreciate it if you stopped attempting to troll me, and leave this thread. Thanx in advance.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Show me a SINGLE instance where someone in Arizona voted who was not a citizen. You can't. Arizona could not even show a SINGLE instance when asked by SCOTUS, during the hearings. And for that, you want to take away the rights of thousands to vote? Good luck with that. It's not going to happen. And you can thank Scalia for that. Can't wait to hear you start screaming that he is one of them there evul leebruls. LOL.
    You ask for something you know cannot be provided because there is no set way to track whether someone who is not allowed to vote does vote or not. There are only two ways in which it can be done and neither one is done. The first being the social security number being checked the second is to do so before vote day by making people provide proof of citizenship.

    No matter what it is there can be no proof provided if one is not even allowed to check for the proof in the first place.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    The Social Security card has only two bits of data. Your full name and your Social Security number.

    It doesn't list your height, weight, place of birth, place of residence, eye color, race, or hair color.

    It has no photograph.

    And non-citizens can get a Social Security card.
    1: No, non citizens cannot get a social security card. They can get a TIN card but not a social security card. Not legally anyways.

    2: The card itself may not have all those things but you can bet that the database that it is attached to does have your birth date and where you were born.
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