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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    None of which is required to put down on at least the MO registration card. So again...how do they prove you are a US citizen?
    I was saying that what they SHOULD do.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    Guys and gals, boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen, its very simple.

    We shoudl verify the citizenship status of voter registrations.

    Either do it by requiring folks to bring proof of citizenship at the time of registration, or make the states do it on their own time.

    But one way or the other we must verify that you have the ****ing right to vote.
    Show me a SINGLE instance where someone in Arizona voted who was not a citizen. You can't. Arizona could not even show a SINGLE instance when asked by SCOTUS, during the hearings. And for that, you want to take away the rights of thousands to vote? Good luck with that. It's not going to happen. And you can thank Scalia for that. Can't wait to hear you start screaming that he is one of them there evul leebruls. LOL.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    As someone who leans to the right, I'm not against a national ID card.
    We have one already. It's called a Social Security Card.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Give it time. That is why some states abolished parole. The Courts were saying that the states were not giving prisoners adequate time for hearings and since the feds were not going to pony up all the additional money needed for more staff to give their inmates some ill-defined appropriate amount of time and representation at the hearings, they just did away with them altogether as parole itself is not a right under the Constitution.
    I have heard many reasons for abolishing parole- everything from it doesn't work to a system of alternative sentencing backed by no parole prison time if the non violent offender fails to stay right with da man... But NEVER heard it was over feds not giving the states enough money for proper prep for parole hearings. Seems to me if parole isn't a Constitutional right then adequate time for hearings seems a moot point to the courts.

    I'd believe doing away with any incentive for good behavior behind bars is a toxic mix for the correction system. I wouldn't want to be a guard in one of those states. I can't imagine how the prison system would handle so many more inmates staying far longer.

    If you have a link to your claim i'd like to read more on it. thanks

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Next up, blanket amnesty, and the United States is changed forever. Republicans will never win another election.
    you seem to be happy about this? Why so/

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    What does that say about the (1) training of the person who told her she couldn't use her old government ID and (2) the fact that it was only after she received publicity that any action was taken on her behalf?


    from the Tennessee Department of Safety & Homeland Security site with requirements for obtaining a "Handgun Carry Permit"


    So one of the items accepted as voter ID in the state doesn't require proof of citizenship - interesting, wouldn't you say
    If you own a gun you are definitely an American in spirit.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Consider a partisan agenda and it starts to make sense.

    Think "what decisions can we make that will inflame conservative voters".
    You may be right. Conservatives end to defend the Constitution and it centuries of success.

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    Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    We have one already. It's called a Social Security Card.
    That's not a national ID.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I have heard many reasons for abolishing parole- everything from it doesn't work to a system of alternative sentencing backed by no parole prison time if the non violent offender fails to stay right with da man... But NEVER heard it was over feds not giving the states enough money for proper prep for parole hearings. Seems to me if parole isn't a Constitutional right then adequate time for hearings seems a moot point to the courts.

    I'd believe doing away with any incentive for good behavior behind bars is a toxic mix for the correction system. I wouldn't want to be a guard in one of those states. I can't imagine how the prison system would handle so many more inmates staying far longer.

    If you have a link to your claim i'd like to read more on it. thanks
    It was something that was discussed at a CLE seminar I was at. The panelists went off on some aside and were telling a story of some politician or another in my state vowing that on the pending case on whether or not something like 3 minutes per parole case was legal, he vowed that if the answer was no, the feds were paying for it or parole was ending in the state because our state wasn't spending another dime setting criminals free. When the case came down against 3 minute or whatever it was hearings, the guy got parole abolished by the legislature. I'll look for a more authoritative source when I get the chance.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    If you own a gun you are definitely an American in spirit.
    What a stupid comment.

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