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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    That's absurd. A hand recount, with officials from both sides observing, is much more accurate than any other method. We've seen this to be the case in the past, so why would a person argue against the most accurate possible measure? Look, pertaining to this issue, I'm certainly not against requiring proof of citizenship during registration (I don't like the way that Arizona did it, but I digress) because it ensures legitimacy. If you're interested in accuracy, then look at proof. Count the ballots.

    This whole "who knows?" business is just an attempt to rationalize not doing the only logical thing to do when you have an election result with less than .1 percent difference between the 2 sides. If Bush had lost by 10 votes in Florida, you would have the exact opposite thing to say as you do right now.
    Let me remind you that Algore didn't go to court demanding a statewide recount, he went to court demanding a recount in four heavily Democratic counties.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Let me remind you that Algore didn't go to court demanding a statewide recount, he went to court demanding a recount in four heavily Democratic counties.
    Who is this "Algore" person?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Nothing has been gutted.
    That's not true. A huge hole was blown in AZ voter registrations. People who want to register and avoid questions about their citizenship can now just use the motorvoter cards and they're in. If they mail in their ballot they don't even need to show ID. The door for serious fraud has not only been opened but it's been blown off the hinges and thrown in the trash. There is no longer any protection whatsoever that an AZ vote was cast by a citizen.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Who is this "Algore" person?
    Hey, perhaps you can find out at Algore.com!
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    What do you mean? Are you still claiming that the applicant's citizenship status is checked? It isn't, because in the absence of paper evidence it can't be.
    States issue birth certificates. Feds issue passports. Are their methods insufficient? Do you think they keep no records of any of it?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    When we fill out the standard voter registration form, our citizenship is confirmed by the voter registration people.

    No need to provide photo ID, BC, Passport, or whatever at the time of registration.

    No foreigner can register to vote using the standard form.
    Nope.

    Here's a link to the form and instructions - http://www.eac.gov/assets/1/Document..._en9242012.pdf
    If you look at box 6 it refers you to the instructions and the instructions indicate that if you don't have an AZ issued ID or an SSN you just write "NONE" in the box and the Sec State has to issue you a voter number. You're still registered. You still get a ballot. You can still vote. All of that can happen as long as you signed off that you're a citizen.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Asking for proof of citizenship disenfranchises aliens, that's it.
    Many legal citizens do not have a birth certificate, passport or tribal ID.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    States issue birth certificates. Feds issue passports. Are their methods insufficient? Do you think they keep no records of any of it?
    Do you think that state voter registration officials check the State Department passport files? That's fine for citizens who have passports, right? As for birth certificates, if one is not presented, do you think that the voter officials go to state birth records? Which state.... does the federal Motor Voter form even ask for place of birth?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    They have records somewhere.

    Its clear that the purpose of this law in AZ was simply to keep people from registering to vote.
    That's correct. It was done to prevent INELIGIBLE people to vote.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Arizona voter ID citizenship law

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Nope.

    Here's a link to the form and instructions - http://www.eac.gov/assets/1/Document..._en9242012.pdf
    If you look at box 6 it refers you to the instructions and the instructions indicate that if you don't have an AZ issued ID or an SSN you just write "NONE" in the box and the Sec State has to issue you a voter number. You're still registered. You still get a ballot. You can still vote. All of that can happen as long as you signed off that you're a citizen.
    And then they take your information and verify it. If you are doing this on Election Day, you cast a provisional ballot which isn't counted until registration is verified.
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