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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    I like how this scandal is about government workers doing their job correctly. Their job is to scrutinize complex and problematic applications. I don't see how it is the IRS' fault that Tea Party organizations were more often problematic than others. And then those TP orgs got their tax exempt status anyway, even though they didn't qualify. The right wing is making a scandal out of people doing their jobs correctly, and the only rules that were broken were done so in their favor. It's insane.
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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    bottom line:

    USAToday: IRS gave liberals a pass; Tea Party groups put on hold

    DOJ opens criminal probe into IRS - The Hill

    why can't the president state flatly when he first learned what was going on at his irs for 2 years?

    why does he claim he read it in the newspaper?

    how could his cos and white house counsel know and not he?

    why did stevens and miller lie to congress, why did lerner cop the 5th?

    why were miller and grant fired, where is holly paz?

    why did shulman visit the white house 118 times?

    why does the white house narrative keep shifting?

    The White House's Shifting IRS Account - Politico

    why were progressives given an irs pass?

    why do half million dollar donors to ofa (organizing for action, 501c4) get invites to white house quarterly meetings?

    why have the doj and fbi launched criminal investigations into the "substantial bias" the irs itself found at the irs?

    bottom line---if you are unfamiliar with holly paz, nancy j marks, colleen kelley, cindy thomas...

    you are fundamentally judging before you have the facts, ie, pre judging, ie prejudiced

    don't do that

    stay tuned

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    And you were completely wrong. See my edit in, where I added more proof. So what are your "facts and preconceived notions" that made you be so wrong ? Does it bother you ?
    I already said I know nothing about how the IRS operates so all I had to go on was conjecture. If you are expecting me to fall to pieces just because I was wrong then I hate to disappoint you.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    So what? That tells me sweet frig all.
    That's how leftists remain leftists. Even when they are caught with their hands in the jam jar they cannot see where there is anything wrong taking place. It's always been that way.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Gary Muthert, an IRS agent there, said his local supervisor told him in March 2010 to check the applications for tax-exempt status to see how many were from groups with "tea party" in their names. The supervisor's name was blacked out in the transcript.

    "He told me that Washington, D.C., wanted some cases," Muthert said of his supervisor.

    Muthert said he came up with fewer than 10 applications. But after checking some of the group's websites, he noticed similar groups with "patriots" or "9-12 project" in their names, so he started looking for applications that mentioned those terms too.

    Over a two-month period, Muthert said he found about 40 applications that mentioned tea party, patriots or 9-12 project - the latter being groups that aspire to re-instill a post-9/11 spirit of unity in the country.

    Muthert said his supervisor told him that someone in Washington wanted to see seven of the applications, so Muthert prepared the files.
    Was IRS targeting limited to Cincinnati office?

    but but Washington isn't involved it was some republican in Cincinnati.
    great detective work Cummings Sherlock would be proud

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    The right wing is making a scandal
    the op is ap

    LOL!

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I like how this scandal is about government workers doing their job correctly. Their job is to scrutinize complex and problematic applications. I don't see how it is the IRS' fault that Tea Party organizations were more often problematic than others. And then those TP orgs got their tax exempt status anyway, even though they didn't qualify. The right wing is making a scandal out of people doing their jobs correctly, and the only rules that were broken were done so in their favor. It's insane.
    Don't let the IRS' own report get in the way of your "facts".

    At the end of June 2011, Lois Lerner, the Washington-based head of the tax-exempt unit, was briefed on the criteria, said the report, and ordered the wording be revised. Singling out applicants on the basis of their political identity, among other characteristics, is a potential crime.

    Yet in January 2012, the Cincinnati unit essentially reversed course, on the grounds that the new criteria were too vague, and resumed targeting groups on the basis of assumed political affiliation, the report said. The Cincinnati office targeted conservative groups with lengthy delays in processing documents and smothered them with questionnaires, according to the IRS inspector general's report, a practice IRS officials now say was out of bounds.
    Same link as my earlier posts.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Don't let the IRS' own report get in the way of your "facts".



    Same link as my earlier posts.
    So my question is who are the culprits? The people at the cinncanatti office? Or is it someone else?

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I like how this scandal is about government workers doing their job correctly. Their job is to scrutinize complex and problematic applications. I don't see how it is the IRS' fault that Tea Party organizations were more often problematic than others. And then those TP orgs got their tax exempt status anyway, even though they didn't qualify. The right wing is making a scandal out of people doing their jobs correctly, and the only rules that were broken were done so in their favor. It's insane.
    would you call these groups political?

    • Bus for Progress, a New Jersey non-profit that uses a red, white and blue bus to "drive the progressive change." According to its website, its mission includes "support (for) progressive politicians with the courage to serve the people's interests and make tough choices." It got an IRS approval as a social welfare group in April 2011.

    • Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment says it fights against corporate welfare and for increasing the minimum wage. "It would be fair to say we're on the progressive end of the spectrum," said executive director Jeff Ordower. He said the group got tax-exempt status in September 2011 in just nine months after "a pretty simple, straightforward process."

    • Progress Florida, granted tax-exempt status in January 2011, is lobbying the Florida Legislature to expand Medicaid under a provision of the Affordable Care Act, one of President Obama's signature accomplishments. The group did not return phone calls. "We're busy fighting to build a more progressive Florida and cannot take your call right now," the group's voice mail said.

    If the IRS was doing their job why was they given their status as little as 9 months

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    You do not disappoint. Rather, you confirm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I already said I know nothing about how the IRS operates so all I had to go on was conjecture. If you are expecting me to fall to pieces just because I was wrong then I hate to disappoint you.

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