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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Hey, free speech give you the right to say almost anything, that doesn't mean it's correct. And I'm not the one drinking the Koolaid, it's the partisan folks on the right drinking it. You might have the motive and means to seal merchandise from a store, that doesn't mean you are a suspect unless you are watch Perry Mason.

    Hard evidence, Hard evidence.
    you use means motive and opportunity as tools to steer you in the right direction to gather that hard evidence. you don't waste your time looking for evidence where there is no means or opportunity. If you can prove that Obama didn't have the means motive or opportunity then and only then should his name be struck of the list of possible involvement

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think its his responsibility is to make sure all the departments under him do their job ethically. What happened at the IRS appears to me to be nothing more than a giant screw up, especially since the manager is a self described conservative Republican. He should remove anyone who has put politics in their job.

    IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer - Toledo Blade
    the so called Republican is a Republican because the proven liar Cummings says he is?

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases [W:127]

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases


    what was it liar Cummings said again?
    "Washington's involvement in the IRS scandal were "unsubstantiated,"

    What was it that Issa said?
    "Washington was involved"

    by the way Holly Paz is a registered Democrat who donated $4,000 to the Obama campaign in 2008
    So, how does "she was personally involved in scrutinizing some of the earliest applications from tea party groups seeking tax-exempt status" put her in the middle of the time-frame and actions of the targeted sweeps that the IRS investigation is talking about?

    Neither you nor this clip you cut and pasted tie the two together in any way or provide a time frame that would.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    you use means motive and opportunity as tools to steer you in the right direction to gather that hard evidence. you don't waste your time looking for evidence where there is no means or opportunity. If you can prove that Obama didn't have the means motive or opportunity then and only then should his name be struck of the list of possible involvement
    Gibberish.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    the so called Republican is a Republican because the proven liar Cummings says he is?
    The manager is a conservative Republican because he said so under oath according to the transcripts.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    the so called Republican is a Republican because the proven liar Cummings says he is?
    The way you cling so tightly to this sinking ship... well, its so manly of you!

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Why are progressives shocked that their own people in positions of power were discriminating against their opposition??

    You do it every damn day even to the point of epic violence...

    You just recently mobbed a mans home... Yet you're in denial discrimination is happening?

    You guys will self-immolate over wars and commit suicide in order to frame "rednecks", riot, squat or takeover buildings yet subtle non-violent discrimination is some surprise to you?

    The denial by the "left" is simply amazing..... You're willing to throw fits like 5-year-olds in the middle of streets and destroy property and attempt to seize anything and everything and act in a childish manner, however those in government who share the same ideas as you - even those in government that know the way of action is through legislation won't discriminate against those they absolutely hate???

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Despite any faults you feel Bush may have had he was a tested leader with a record that one could inspect, and it was felt both times that he was a superior candidate to either Gore or Kerry. In retrospect I think the people were right

    If George Bush were to run against Barrack Obama now, purely on their records, Bush would most likely win.
    As I said, you don't hold him accountable for ANYTHING.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    So your thought is that Obama is not held responsible for anything because you believe Bush wasnt? How many different ways do you want me to shred that? If you really want to discuss it, start a new thread.
    No, my point is that the right wants to hold Obama responsible for EVERYTHING while they gave Bush a free pass. Kinda hard to take those on the right seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Back to the topic at hand---if you believe that the President cannot possibly be responsible for everything that occurs, that would be a good argument for two things: stronger oversight and less government. Internal investigations and IG inspections arent getting the job done and the stonewalling that has been occurring just makes the administration look guilty.
    I have no problem with more oversight and less government. However, what "appears" to you to be guilty is of little consequence, either put up some evidence or look like stupid conspiracy nuts.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, my point is that the right wants to hold Obama responsible for EVERYTHING while they gave Bush a free pass. Kinda hard to take those on the right seriously.



    I have no problem with more oversight and less government. However, what "appears" to you to be guilty is of little consequence, either put up some evidence or look like stupid conspiracy nuts.
    What?

    Yeah maybe republicans gave Bush a free pass but conservatives and libertarians gave Bush extra **** and absolutely disagreed with him on many issue especially the Patriot Act which Obamabots in congress learned to love and abuse - not to mention the war.

    Obama gets absolute loyalty out of 99% of progressives when Bush got about 60 or maybe 70% that viewed themselves as conservative or republican...

    It's funny how the left in their rags portrays the "right" as a split party (and they're absolutely correct) however when you make arguments you attempt to portray us as completely in cohesion.... Which way is it and which lie you want to tell?

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