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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's risky making a claim like that when BHO is a proven liar.
    LMMFAO I'll risk it. I would bet you've told a lie in your life.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO I'll risk it. I would bet you've told a lie in your life.
    What does that mean? If I have lied it's okay for the US President to lie?

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    1.?
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    We should blame the CEO of a company for every infraction the employees are charged with?
    Pete every item listed is a known fact of the case now.

    The IRS admitted to wrong doing in how this was done.
    The admin spin for weeks was that this was limited to one unit in Cincinnati. We know now that is false.

    If you dont know these things, you should probably listen more and talk less or go read some news sources that are covering the story instead of covering for the White House.

    And these groups will bring suit against the US government, not the individuals at the IRS. The President is responsible for the actions of the IRS. Thats why the buck stops there.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO I'll risk it. I would bet you've told a lie in your life.
    Pete. The President doesnt get to lie about policy and actions undertaken by his subordinates. His responsibility is to approach oversight as honestly and clearly as possible, not manage it for it political fall out and lie as he feels like to cover his ass.

    The amount of water carrying you are doing is just pathetic.

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    What gets me about this saga, is that in the case the best that Obama has done is to roll out some meaningless resignation from the IRS head that was already resigning, and then going to great pains to hide, or place on paid leave, hell in one case promote one player in this to the HC side.......Obama is being very clear, in that he is saying to the American people, and his political opponents, "Yeah, I knew about it, and authorized it, F-You!! I'd do it again, because I think it is ok to use my power to attack my political opponents."....
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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    LMMFAO I'll risk it. I would bet you've told a lie in your life.
    How naive and uninformed your pathetic comment is.

    If you have a job P, how about you go and lie to your boss today about some task that was under your control. Let us know how it works out for you.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Pete every item listed is a known fact of the case now.

    The IRS admitted to wrong doing in how this was done.
    The admin spin for weeks was that this was limited to one unit in Cincinnati. We know now that is false.

    If you dont know these things, you should probably listen more and talk less or go read some news sources that are covering the story instead of covering for the White House.

    And these groups will bring suit against the US government, not the individuals at the IRS. The President is responsible for the actions of the IRS. Thats why the buck stops there.

    What group other than Cincinnati was involved with the targeting of conservative groups? Now if you are going to claim it was Holly Paz, the subject of this thread, you are wrong, She was involved with scrutinizing organizations targeted by the Cincinnati office. This what IRS agents do, they scrutinize claims made by tax payers.

    Rep. Darrell Issa has done every possible to making President Obama look guilty by selectively leaking information from the IRS testimony.

    How Will Fox Report On Full Transcript Undermining IRS Conspiracy? | Blog | Media Matters for America


    For weeks, Fox News has promoted selective clips of interview transcripts leaked by House Republicans to promote their baseless claim that the White House engineered the Internal Revenue Service's improper screening of conservative groups seeking non-profit status.

    Such claims were always speculative. The IRS' inspector general has said that while employees used "improper criteria" to scrutinize conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status, that behavior was "not politically biased" and was not driven by the White House. Subsequent testimony leaked by House Republicans has suggested that high-ranking IRS officials in Washington were at first unaware of the improper behavior and stopped it when they learned of it.

    The House Oversight Committee's Democrats have now released the full transcript of an interview with another IRS witness which further undermines claims that the White House was at the center of the process. According to the interview subject, a self-described conservative Republican who worked in the IRS' Cincinnati office, an agent he supervised flagged the first Tea Party application that came under scrutiny, asking for guidance on the case.The interview subject denied having had contact with senior IRS officials or the White House about the targeting. According to The Washington Post's Greg Sargent:

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What gets me about this saga, is that in the case the best that Obama has done is to roll out some meaningless resignation from the IRS head that was already resigning, and then going to great pains to hide, or place on paid leave, hell in one case promote one player in this to the HC side.......Obama is being very clear, in that he is saying to the American people, and his political opponents, "Yeah, I knew about it, and authorized it, F-You!! I'd do it again, because I think it is ok to use my power to attack my political opponents."....
    He has become President of the United States and has been reelected. Among the first things he said when meeting with Republicans after the election was "I won". And he did. That's what really mattered.

    Now he gets to enjoy the benefits of his win, like playing golf with Tiger Woods, going on a safari to Africa (since cancelled), vacationing in Martha's Vineyard and rubbing elbows with celebrities. A member of the Choom Gang made it to the top and had the last laugh. It seems this that is really what it's all about.

    Lincoln noted something about fooling some of the people all of the time, and he does that as good as anyone I've ever seen.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What group other than Cincinnati was involved with the targeting of conservative groups? Now if you are going to claim it was Holly Paz, the subject of this thread, you are wrong, She was involved with scrutinizing organizations targeted by the Cincinnati office. This what IRS agents do, they scrutinize claims made by tax payers.

    Rep. Darrell Issa has done every possible to making President Obama look guilty by selectively leaking information from the IRS testimony.

    How Will Fox Report On Full Transcript Undermining IRS Conspiracy? | Blog | Media Matters for America


    For weeks, Fox News has promoted selective clips of interview transcripts leaked by House Republicans to promote their baseless claim that the White House engineered the Internal Revenue Service's improper screening of conservative groups seeking non-profit status.

    Such claims were always speculative. The IRS' inspector general has said that while employees used "improper criteria" to scrutinize conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status, that behavior was "not politically biased" and was not driven by the White House. Subsequent testimony leaked by House Republicans has suggested that high-ranking IRS officials in Washington were at first unaware of the improper behavior and stopped it when they learned of it.

    The House Oversight Committee's Democrats have now released the full transcript of an interview with another IRS witness which further undermines claims that the White House was at the center of the process. According to the interview subject, a self-described conservative Republican who worked in the IRS' Cincinnati office, an agent he supervised flagged the first Tea Party application that came under scrutiny, asking for guidance on the case.The interview subject denied having had contact with senior IRS officials or the White House about the targeting. According to The Washington Post's Greg Sargent:
    Pete Im sick and tired of you playing dumb. I KNOW you read sources that already have answers to your questions unless you rely on that POS that you call a source, Media Matters.

    Start reading:
    Everything you need to know about the IRS scandal in one FAQ

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    Some conservatives did, in fact. Rep. Charles Boustany (R-La.), who chairs the House Ways and Means Oversight subcommittee, pressed Douglas Shulman, the Bush-appointed IRS commissioner, on the issue in March 2012. Shulman denied that the agency was targeting conservatives. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) wrote to the agency three times last year on the issue.
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    An office in Cincinnati, apparently, which was tasked with evaluating these applications. However, IRS officials in Washington and California were also engaged in scrutinizing conservative groups. President Obama has claimed that he did not know about the issue until this past Friday, when initial news reports surfaced.
    Rich information material with links to side stories enlarging on the details of whats known. As I said Im tired of your willful lack of knowledge and tossing up questions Im almost positive you already know the answers to.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Keep up the good work Pete! When you know they are crackers to begin with it's usually not going to take much to drive them completely around the bend.

    Calling your sources a POS is an important step to note. It always gets better!

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