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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Why is it you think that there's always some sort of sinister thing behind every action?
    Because when humans are involved, there usually is.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Here's what this loon says. "It was proper that the tea party groups received heavy scrutiny. As the New York Times has firmly established, many of them were primarily political groups that potentially didn’t qualify for 501(c)(4) status".

    Do you really believe that?
    Absolutely!

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Was I wrong or right?
    arrogantly ridiculous would be my assessment....
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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

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    Absolutely!

    Why?????
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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Oh, that's crap Pete and you know it....

    Here is one example.....One of your favorites....

    Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation - news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda - every day, in real time.

    Using the website mediamatters.org as the principal vehicle for disseminating research and information, Media Matters posts rapid-response items as well as longer research and analytic reports documenting conservative misinformation throughout the media. Additionally, Media Matters works daily to notify activists, journalists, pundits, and the general public about instances of misinformation, providing them with the resources to rebut false claims and to take direct action against offending media institutions.

    About Us | Media Matters for America
    Now let's take a look at the IRS's own guidelines concerning 501c3 status requirements as it applies to Media Matters....

    Exemption requirements: 501(c)(3) organizations

    To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual.

    In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

    Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3), other than testing for public safety organizations, are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions in accordance with Code section 170.

    The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, and no part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.

    If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any organization managers agreeing to the transaction.

    Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct.

    Exemption requirements: 501(c)(3) organizations
    Was Media Matters scrutinized?

    Further, a misinformation that you and others are putting out there is answered in the IRS's own website in plain language....

    I have read you say that a 501c4 may not engage in political activity, that is false...

    3. What does the IRS look for in the approval process?

    The IRS’s role is to determine whether organization meets the legal requirements for tax-exempt status. One requirement relates to the amount of political campaign intervention (“political activity”) that tax-exempt organizations may engage in.

    Section 501(c)(3) organizations are prohibited from engaging in any political activity.

    Other organizations, including section 501(c)(4) organizations, may only engage in a limited amount of political activity.

    Questions and Answers on 501(c) Organizations
    Now you can argue the absurd Media Matters lies if you wish, but it is in plain language, and clear for everyone to see here....

    Further, do you agree with this statement from the very article you posted?

    "The Determinations Unit based out of the Cincinnati IRS targeted 501(c)(4) applications that used tea party-related terms for extra scrutiny. Whether the intent was benign, as the IRS swears, or rogue agents were carrying out a political vendetta, the effect was to politicize the IRS’s filtering process. That’s a huge problem."

    Even a liar like Ezra Klein get's something right once and a while....Other than that, he is nothing but an Obama hack.
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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, that's crap Pete and you know it....

    Here is one example.....One of your favorites....




    Now let's take a look at the IRS's own guidelines concerning 501c3 status requirements as it applies to Media Matters....



    Was Media Matters scrutinized?

    Further, a misinformation that you and others are putting out there is answered in the IRS's own website in plain language....

    I have read you say that a 501c4 may not engage in political activity, that is false...



    Now you can argue the absurd Media Matters lies if you wish, but it is in plain language, and clear for everyone to see here....
    Media Matters is a 501 c(3) but so the conservative Media Research Center About Us | Media Research Center

    Since 1987, the Media Research Center has been the nationís premier media watchdog. We donít endorse politicians and we donít lobby for legislation. MRCís sole mission is to expose and neutralize the propaganda arm of the Left: the national news media. This makes the MRCís work unique within the conservative movement.

    The Media Research Centerís unwavering commitment to neutralizing left-wing bias in the news media and popular culture has influenced how millions of Americans perceive so-called objective reporting.

    Integrating cutting-edge news monitoring capabilities with a sophisticated marketing operation, MRC reaches nearly 170 million Americans each week to educate them about left-wing bias in the media.

    The Media Research Center is a research and education organization operating under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. Contributions are tax-deductible to the maximum extent of the law. The MRC receives no government grants or contracts nor do we have an endowment. We raise our funds each year from individuals, foundations, and corporations.
    Both do essentially the same thing which is to educate about politics, neither engage in it.

    Yes, section 501(c)(4) organizations, may only engage in a limited amount of political activity. That's the reason they must be scrutinized by the IRS

    Further, do you agree with this statement from the very article you posted?

    "The Determinations Unit based out of the Cincinnati IRS targeted 501(c)(4) applications that used tea party-related terms for extra scrutiny. Whether the intent was benign, as the IRS swears, or rogue agents were carrying out a political vendetta, the effect was to politicize the IRSís filtering process. Thatís a huge problem."


    Even a liar like Ezra Klein get's something right once and a while....Other than that, he is nothing but an Obama hack.
    Yes, I agree totally with it. Ezra is a shape dude, he is not a hack for anyone.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Media Matters is a 501 c(3) but so the conservative Media Research Center About Us | Media Research Center


    Both do essentially the same thing which is to educate about politics, neither engage in it.

    Yes, section 501(c)(4) organizations, may only engage in a limited amount of political activity. That's the reason they must be scrutinized by the IRS



    Yes, I agree totally with it. Ezra is a shape dude, he is not a hack for anyone.
    That doesnt mean they need things like prayer books, facebook contacts, membership lists. They DO need donor amounts, but the donor identities should remain secret and not be leaked, as we know they were in at least two instances.

    Tea Party groups that want to educate on the benefits of limited government, lower taxes are no different than say progressive groups advocating more green policies. Neither is engaged in party politics but both are engaging in political ideas and ideas are ok, political party advocacy is not.

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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Media Matters is a 501 c(3) but so the conservative Media Research Center About Us | Media Research Center


    Both do essentially the same thing which is to educate about politics, neither engage in it.
    According to 'Discover the Networks' a reliable source to see the connections, they list:

    MEDIA MATTERS FOR AMERICA (MMFA)
    1625 Massachusetts Ave. NW - Suite 300
    PO Box 52155
    Washington, DC
    20036
    Phone 202) 756-4100
    Email :action@mediamatters.org
    URL :Media Matters for America


    Self-described “progressive” media “monitor” that tracks “conservative misinformation”
    A creation of Democratic Party funders and ofperatives, and of former conservative writer David Brock

    Dictates the content of many mainstream media reports

    Smears conservatives as liars and racists

    Contends that conservatives dominate the mainstream media

    Is funded and supported by the billionaire philanthropist George Soros

    Has regular contact and strategy sessions with political operatives inside the Obama White House

    Has collaborated with Attorney General Eric Holder's office in an effort to discredit and suppress news stories about scandals plaguing the Justice Department


    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/p...asp?grpid=7150
    I give you one more time to express the truth here in that Media Matters is in direct violation of their 501c3 status.

    Yes, section 501(c)(4) organizations, may only engage in a limited amount of political activity. That's the reason they must be scrutinized by the IRS
    How many liberal c4's were scrutinized in the same time period...?

    Yes, I agree totally with it. Ezra is a shape dude, he is not a hack for anyone.
    A "shape dude"? I don't know what that means. But hack he is....give me a critical column from him directed at Obama.
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    Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Absolutely!
    Do think this might be related to politics at all? This might be the most obvious examle because the US President is directly involved.

    Obama Signs Fundraising Email for 'Non-Partisan' Organizing for Action | The Weekly Standard

    There are dozens of these left wing political groups and they had no problems getting their 501s. Yet you don't see any favoritism here?

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