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7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

VanceMack said:
Similar to running cheap diseased prostitutes for 5-10 bucks a blowjob, all they have to do is offer a cheaper product. If they build it, people will come.
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That's the other part of the equation: the market for the "services" provided by the gangs. We have the most drug addled population on the planet, and, yes, there is a market for cheap whores. The question becomes one of how to reduce that market. What drives it? Is it really just moral depravity, or is there something else?
 
Dittohead not! said:
That's the other part of the equation: the market for the "services" provided by the gangs. We have the most drug addled population on the planet, and, yes, there is a market for cheap whores. The question becomes one of how to reduce that market. What drives it? Is it really just moral depravity, or is there something else?
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Considering the fact that prostitutes are well known as the worlds oldest profession (I think 'Politician' is a branch of that occupation) and that we have always sought a way and means of getting high, Id have to say it was part of human nature. People from extreme poverty seek immediate gratification and hunt 'the high'. So do people from extreme financial prosperity.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Being young, male, with no dependents i.e. no responsibilities except to yourself, and being without education or any real prospects for the future is to be easily recruited for a gang, that's for sure. Interestingly enough, those same characteristics describe most of the radical jihadis as well, or at least the new recruits, but that's another issue (or is it?)

And, i suppose you could make the point that gangs also promote drug abuse, but then, that's no different from any profit making enterprise promoting their products.

But, it's difficult to see how gangs could make the kind of money they make in illegal drugs by cornering the market on milk.
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Heya DH. :2wave: I think the Milk is like an exaggeration but then anything with Vices would be game. Another Business one will see go up is the making of papers and False identification. Forgers.....we would definitely see more burglaries and thefts. Home Invasions etc etc.
 
Dittohead not! said:
That's the other part of the equation: the market for the "services" provided by the gangs. We have the most drug addled population on the planet, and, yes, there is a market for cheap whores. The question becomes one of how to reduce that market. What drives it? Is it really just moral depravity, or is there something else?
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Poverty, brotherhood, being part of something bigger than ones self. Believe it or not the Gang Organizations do have a code or Laws that they live by. Which is still founded on principles, depending on the Organization as to which ones are which.

I don't know how they can reduce the game within Prostitution tho. For some girls and women it is a way out of that hood. Those that go beyond being a Street-walker.
 
MMC said:
Poverty, brotherhood, being part of something bigger than ones self. Believe it or not the Gang Organizations do have a code or Laws that they live by. Which is still founded on principles, depending on the Organization as to which ones are which.

I don't know how they can reduce the game within Prostitution tho. For some girls and women it is a way out of that hood. Those that go beyond being a Street-walker.
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Being a part of something bigger than oneself used to mean family, church perhaps, the military for some, but family for sure.

The root of a lot of our social ills lies with the decline of the family as the basic unit of society.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Being a part of something bigger than oneself used to mean family, church perhaps, the military for some, but family for sure.

The root of a lot of our social ills lies with the decline of the family as the basic unit of society.
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Yeah I don't disagree with you DH. But for a lot of them. They don't have family or anyone else. Some of them, the whole family is involved.

I got out due to the Military. But not all can do that anymore. Not unless we had some draft out of necessity.
 
MMC said:
Yeah I don't disagree with you DH. But for a lot of them. They don't have family or anyone else. Some of them, the whole family is involved.

I got out due to the Military. But not all can do that anymore. Not unless we had some draft out of necessity.
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A lot of them not having a family or anyone else has to be a large part of the problem. You're right that some do, though. A local sheriff's deputy told me about a gang family that spanned three generations, grandpa, pop, and son, all in the same gang.

Maybe the values that the family has are important, too.
 
VanceMack said:
Great! a basketball league and that will solve everything! Wait,,,they HAVE the basketball league and still had the 7 dead and 32 wounded. Oh...and lets not forget how easily those 'basketball leagues' could get exploited.

lots of changes have to happen. Yes...absolutely...economic opportunites, better education, a communtiy willing to tell the assholes no more and stop defending criminal behavior with excuses, and draconian prison sentences for people that refuse to get the message.
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Is this the Clinton Midnight Basketball Program?

Midnight basketball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Dittohead not! said:
A lot of them not having a family or anyone else has to be a large part of the problem. You're right that some do, though. A local sheriff's deputy told me about a gang family that spanned three generations, grandpa, pop, and son, all in the same gang.

Maybe the values that the family has are important, too.
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Definitely, when it comes to the Latin Gangs. Although I am sure it would be like that for many.
 
Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence [ Chiraq ]

How did we deal with violent criminals in the 1930's?
 
Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence [ Chiraq ]

What's to stop us from designating these gangs as domestic terrorists and deal with them accordingly? Making simple membership an immediate felony.

I mean, they shouldn't be hard to identify and locate. They have their pants down to their knees and gang tattoo's covering their bodies.

Send them mother****ers to Guantanimo or the graveyard. Preferably the latter.
 
Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence [ Chiraq ]

Dittohead not! said:
prosecuted them for tax evasion.
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Well.....first we made money off of them. Then we let them kill each other. THEN we got them for Tax evasion. :lol:
 
Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence [ Chiraq ]

MMC said:
Well.....first we made money off of them. Then we let them kill each other. THEN we got them for Tax evasion. :lol:
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So, the question is, how can we make money off of the violent gangs today? There must be some way.
 
Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence [ Chiraq ]

Dittohead not! said:
So, the question is, how can we make money off of the violent gangs today? There must be some way.
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Kill them, use their bodies for science
 
Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence [ Chiraq ]

Dittohead not! said:
So, the question is, how can we make money off of the violent gangs today? There must be some way.
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I think they are already off into the rinse and repeat cycle, myself. Plus around here, I think I showed ya that piece before on how the Pols use them and the Banger turned Community activists help get that vote out. ;)
 
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MMC said:
I think they are already off into the rinse and repeat cycle, myself. Plus around here, I think I showed ya that piece before on how the Pols use them and the Banger turned Community activists help get that vote out. ;)
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The pols do exploit them for money and votes, no doubt. The prison industry makes money from them as well, but that money comes from taxpayers, which makes it a cost for one part of society and a benefit to another.

Maybe chain gangs, or hard labor instead of conventional prison.
 
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