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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    In New York too, when will liberals realize more gun control equals more severe crime
    In Australia, gun control has worked splendidly.
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Hard to deny people health care benefits and social spending costs, when other things related to health care costs such as alcohol, obescity, etc are major factors as well.

    Unless you are looking to do a total review of everything health care related that you want to exclude, I think focusing on only the drug aspect is foolish and discriminatory.
    World of difference etween what casual use...even DAILY use of alcohol or marijuana will do to a person vs what heroin or methamphetamines will do to a person...but...if you insist...deny all services to any substance abusers. Im good with that too.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Chicago has some of the strongest gun control laws in the country.


    Seven people were killed and at least 30 others were shot in violence that plagued Chicago over Father's Day weekend.

    Six of the fatalities and 11 other shootings occurred overnight Saturday leading into Father's Day, including the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old boy.



    Source: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence | NBC Chicago
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    In Australia, gun control has worked splendidly.
    1-Not all Aussies agree with that assessment, and
    2-The USA is not Australia. They have never had to deal with the gang problems we have and anyone that is honest about the problem will admit that the VAST majority of murders in this ****ry are committed by people that would still have no problem getting illegal weapons. As for the suicide angle re firearms, Australia, Japan, and others demonstrate pretty clearly...people committed to committing the act, commit quite successfully without firearms, at a rate greater than here in the states.

    in other words...gun control would probably work quite splendidly...in some upper middle income neighborhoods with gated communities and little to no crime or gang problems.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They're already looking at other areas of crime, such as prostitution, but the real money is in drug dealing. No ending prohibition isn't going to totally end gang activity, but it would take a lot of the wind out of their sails.

    It's hard to see how gangs could be any more racially divided than they are now. There are black gangs, Latino gangs, Asian gangs, white supremacist gangs, are there really any integrated gangs?
    Heya DH. Yet the difference is.....they are not attacking each other out of race. It is divided here by the People and the Folks. So Black gangs going after other black gangs. Latinos going after latinos. Not Racially motivated. But that would change too.

    Sure the drugs are a min part of it. But like you stated they will increase prostitution. Car jackings, Chop Shops would rise up moreso, then they would start hitting the Pharma companies.

    Course now they are also into legal Drugs. Like Ritalin and Seraquel. Xanax, and all sorts of pills. Selling prescripts for testing days and whatnot. Also the Steroids.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Latin Kings deal in Military Ordinance and Military weapons. Have you considered there are bangers who were in the Armed Services. Which doesn't count who is ready for Urban warfare and fights it on a daily basis.

    Which then leaves that problem about kids under 12years of age and running around with weapons. Then the Pee-wees and Juniors that will do anything to become a full-fledged members and known in their hood.
    And this has what to do with my response to something DHN posted? Did you read our line of posts?
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Well, you may not be a true redneck, then. Do you at least have a pick up truck with a confederate flag painted on the top, beer cans in the bed, tobacco juice running down the door, and a gun rack in the back window?
    Actually, I am much more "Geek" than redneck. I do own a pickup, but no, none of the rest apply.
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya DH. Yet the difference is.....they are not attacking each other out of race. It is divided here by the People and the Folks. So Black gangs going after other black gangs. Latinos going after latinos. Not Racially motivated. But that would change too.

    Sure the drugs are a min part of it. But like you stated they will increase prostitution. Car jackings, Chop Shops would rise up moreso, then they would start hitting the Pharma companies.

    Course now they are also into legal Drugs. Like Ritalin and Seraquel. Xanax, and all sorts of pills. Selling prescripts for testing days and whatnot. Also the Steroids.
    So, instead of attacking each other for drug turf, they'll kill each other based on race? I'm not sure just why that would happen.

    As for the rest of it, sure, they'd try to branch out into other sorts of crimes as well, but most of their profits would dry up. There's no way that carjackings would produce the same sorts of profits that drug dealing does. For one thing, they're already into car thievery, and for another, there are ways of dealing with car theft, like putting GPS units in cars and tracking them. End 90% of their profits, and 90% of their business will close.

    It's just like those video cassette rental places, their profits dried up, and where are they now?
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    In Australia, gun control has worked splendidly.
    And Australia has a population of what? Spread out over how much territory? Were all guns once legal there with no restrictions whatsoever? They share a land border with how many other countries? Do they have a population that has had two centuries of almost unrestricted gun ownership with private ownership playing a pivotal role in the history of their country? Did they have over 100 million gun owners that they took the guns away from when the instituted those gun control laws?
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    And Australia has a population of what? Spread out over how much territory? Were all guns once legal there with no restrictions whatsoever? They share a land border with how many other countries? Do they have a population that has had two centuries of almost unrestricted gun ownership with private ownership playing a pivotal role in the history of their country? Did they have over 100 million gun owners that they took the guns away from when the instituted those gun control laws?

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    BTW, did you take the time to scrutinize the OP with his broad brush conclusion of the shootings in Chicago this weekend?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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