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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInternet View Post
    We can easily get rid of gangs.

    Ganges exist to control profits of illegal activities, which is drugs primarily, and sometimes prostitution. Most big gangs are actually pretty amazing in how they are run. There is a hierarchy, kinda like a corporation. They exist, and profit off of selling drugs. Gangs kill rival gang members to control drug turf.

    So, how do we get rid of gangs? Easy, legalize all drugs.



    LOL. Gang members generally don't know **** about firearms, or how to shoot. Rednecks do.

    It'd be gang members holding Jennings .25 ACPs sideways randomly spraying bullets against tact'd out assault rifles from guys that know how to shoot.

    .....really? You watch to much TV then.

    I see you don't know much about Gangs and Gang Organizations. Perhaps you should read up on some so you have some sort of Understanding.

    Moreover legalizing Drugs isn't going to get rid of Gangs.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You know what they need? A good community organizer...
    I am sure the Democrats of Chicago have made that point aware to them quite Frequently. Considering all the TOP Gang-Organizations do.....do just that. Then lobby for the Politicians around here.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    One of the biggest issues with gangs is drug running. Maybe those that wish to have gun control laws removed would also be willing to remove drug laws as well.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    .....really? You watch to much TV then.

    I see you don't know much about Gangs and Gang Organizations. Perhaps you should read up on some so you have some sort of Understanding.

    Moreover legalizing Drugs isn't going to get rid of Gangs.
    No, but it would take the profitability out of being in a gang, much as ending prohibition did back in the '30s.
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    One of the biggest issues with gangs is drug running. Maybe those that wish to have gun control laws removed would also be willing to remove drug laws as well.
    Heya TNE. I think the main issue is the recruiting of the younger kids. I think we need to come up with more ways to keep kids involved into legitimate activities. After school and into the evenings.

    Plus looking at ways to curb the recruitment. A lot of these gangs are ran by like 17 and 18years old. Gang Organizations are different. Someway we need to stop the influence. Showing kids other people care. Not just those in their own Hoods or Suburbs.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    One of the biggest issues with gangs is drug running. Maybe those that wish to have gun control laws removed would also be willing to remove drug laws as well.
    I'll give you marijuana legalization. Ive always been pro pot legalization. Hell...I'll even give you blanket legalization...provided that anyone found heroin, cocaine, hallucinogens, methamphetamines, etc be denied health care benefits and social spending costs.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, but it would take the profitability out of being in a gang, much as ending prohibition did back in the '30s.
    Which would lead them back to looking at other areas of crime.....and of course going back to being more racially divided. Fighting and looking to kill over that reason alone. Making hits based solely back on that front.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Gang wars have made one of our biggest cities into a war zone, and we're fighting over gun control?

    Gun control doesn't work. Gangs don't care what the gun laws are. That much is obvious, or should be by now.

    So, what does work? How do we get rid of gangs, or can we? What is it that keeps them going and encourages people to become involved in them?

    This is a serious question, and is not limited to Chicago or New York. We have a terrible gang problem right here in River City, as it were. Gangs are active all over the country.
    Our foolish and counterproductive drug policy has the gangs making pretty good money by dealing drugs.

    If the prohibition were ended with the stroke of a pen, same way it was created, the biggest source of money for the gangs would be eliminated.

    Unfortunately, this is too honest for the government to do.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I'll give you marijuana legalization. Ive always been pro pot legalization. Hell...I'll even give you blanket legalization...provided that anyone found heroin, cocaine, hallucinogens, methamphetamines, etc be denied health care benefits and social spending costs.
    Hard to deny people health care benefits and social spending costs, when other things related to health care costs such as alcohol, obescity, etc are major factors as well.

    Unless you are looking to do a total review of everything health care related that you want to exclude, I think focusing on only the drug aspect is foolish and discriminatory.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Which would lead them back to looking at other areas of crime.....and of course going back to being more racially divided. Fighting and looking to kill over that reason alone. Making hits based solely back on that front.
    They're already looking at other areas of crime, such as prostitution, but the real money is in drug dealing. No ending prohibition isn't going to totally end gang activity, but it would take a lot of the wind out of their sails.

    It's hard to see how gangs could be any more racially divided than they are now. There are black gangs, Latino gangs, Asian gangs, white supremacist gangs, are there really any integrated gangs?
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