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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Gang wars have made one of our biggest cities into a war zone, and we're fighting over gun control?

    Gun control doesn't work. Gangs don't care what the gun laws are. That much is obvious, or should be by now.

    So, what does work? How do we get rid of gangs, or can we? What is it that keeps them going and encourages people to become involved in them?

    This is a serious question, and is not limited to Chicago or New York. We have a terrible gang problem right here in River City, as it were. Gangs are active all over the country.
    Heya DH. The Latest method is.....Chicago has set up a New Task Force involved with the Feds. They are now going after the Gang-bangers with the Rico laws and Statutes. It appears to be taking affect.

    Recently they have made strikes on the Latin Kings, Gangster Disciples, and the Souls. Arresting Numbers ranging from 18 to 23 members at a time.

    18 Alleged Gangbangers Charged in Large Drug Trafficking Bust

    Local and federal authorities nabbed 18 associates of the Black Disciples street gang, including in and around Chicago's South Side, on drug and firearms charges.....snip~

    18 Alleged Gangbangers Charged in Large Drug Trafficking Bust - Police & Fire - Beverly-MtGreenwood, IL Patch

    The Latest nab was June 13th of this year.....

    Officials: Murder, intimidation kept $11 million-a-year gang going.

    The top leaders of one of Chicago’s most violent street gangs have been charged in a sweeping racketeering case that alleges they controlled their West Side drug empire through pattern of intimidation, kidnappings, shootings and murder dating back to the mid-1990s, according to an affidavit unsealed today in Cook County Criminal Court



    Before sunrise today, police armed with "no knock" search warrants fanned out across the Chicago area surprising dozens of leaders of the Black Souls, including Cornel Dawson, known as the gang’s chief, and Teron Odum, described as Dawson’s second-in-command. Also arrested were a number of “top runners” and “supervisors” who authorities say control the gang’s street operations.

    The 78-page affidavit alleges the Black Souls ran an $11 million-a-year drug operation and protected the enterprise with violence that included at least seven murders from 1994 to 2012. In all, 23 members of the gang have been charged with racketeering conspiracy, while 18 more face state drug or weapons charges, authorities said.

    The new street gang RICO law has enabled us to launch an unprecedented attack on the leadership of this violent and notorious gang,” Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez said at a news conference today at the Leighton Criminal Court Building. “It is a game-changer for law enforcement in our war against Chicago street gangs.”

    The arrests mark the first prosecution by the Cook County state’s attorney’s office under the gang RICO law, which took effect in June 2012 and was modeled after the 1970 federal RICO statute originally designed to go after mobsters. By classifying a gang as a criminal enterprise, the law allows authorities to hold leaders responsible for the gang’s actions even if they are insulated from a particular crime such as a murder or drug deal.

    The law carries stiff penalties for those convicted of participating in a criminal enterprise -- from a mandatory 7- to 30-year prison term for racketeering conspiracy up to life in prison without parole for those convicted of murder under the statute.

    The Black Souls gang was founded on the city’s West Side and is thought to have a half-dozen factions with more than 750 members, according to law enforcement reports.

    Over the past decade, the federal RICO statute has been used against two Chicago-area gangs: the Latin Kings in Chicago and the Insane Deuces in Aurora.....snip~

    Officials: Murder, intimidation kept $11 million-a-year gang going - Chicago Tribune

    Now, it's also figuring out what to do with those Kids under the age of 12.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    My grandparents had a grocery store in what is East Garfield Park into the early 60s.Even then the neighborhood was pretty rough and sketchy.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya DH. The Latest method is.....Chicago has set up a New Task Force involved with the Feds. They are now going after the Gang-bangers with the Rico laws and Statutes. It appears to be taking affect.

    Recently they have made strikes on the Latin Kings, Gangster Disciples, and the Souls. Arresting Numbers ranging from 18 to 23 members at a time.

    18 Alleged Gangbangers Charged in Large Drug Trafficking Bust

    Local and federal authorities nabbed 18 associates of the Black Disciples street gang, including in and around Chicago's South Side, on drug and firearms charges.....snip~

    18 Alleged Gangbangers Charged in Large Drug Trafficking Bust - Police & Fire - Beverly-MtGreenwood, IL Patch

    The Latest nab was June 13th of this year.....

    Officials: Murder, intimidation kept $11 million-a-year gang going.

    The top leaders of one of Chicago’s most violent street gangs have been charged in a sweeping racketeering case that alleges they controlled their West Side drug empire through pattern of intimidation, kidnappings, shootings and murder dating back to the mid-1990s, according to an affidavit unsealed today in Cook County Criminal Court



    Before sunrise today, police armed with "no knock" search warrants fanned out across the Chicago area surprising dozens of leaders of the Black Souls, including Cornel Dawson, known as the gang’s chief, and Teron Odum, described as Dawson’s second-in-command. Also arrested were a number of “top runners” and “supervisors” who authorities say control the gang’s street operations.

    The 78-page affidavit alleges the Black Souls ran an $11 million-a-year drug operation and protected the enterprise with violence that included at least seven murders from 1994 to 2012. In all, 23 members of the gang have been charged with racketeering conspiracy, while 18 more face state drug or weapons charges, authorities said.

    The new street gang RICO law has enabled us to launch an unprecedented attack on the leadership of this violent and notorious gang,” Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez said at a news conference today at the Leighton Criminal Court Building. “It is a game-changer for law enforcement in our war against Chicago street gangs.”

    The arrests mark the first prosecution by the Cook County state’s attorney’s office under the gang RICO law, which took effect in June 2012 and was modeled after the 1970 federal RICO statute originally designed to go after mobsters. By classifying a gang as a criminal enterprise, the law allows authorities to hold leaders responsible for the gang’s actions even if they are insulated from a particular crime such as a murder or drug deal.

    The law carries stiff penalties for those convicted of participating in a criminal enterprise -- from a mandatory 7- to 30-year prison term for racketeering conspiracy up to life in prison without parole for those convicted of murder under the statute.

    The Black Souls gang was founded on the city’s West Side and is thought to have a half-dozen factions with more than 750 members, according to law enforcement reports.

    Over the past decade, the federal RICO statute has been used against two Chicago-area gangs: the Latin Kings in Chicago and the Insane Deuces in Aurora.....snip~

    Officials: Murder, intimidation kept $11 million-a-year gang going - Chicago Tribune

    Now, it's also figuring out what to do with those Kids under the age of 12.
    It sounds like the authorities are at least working on the problem. Now, how to make those drug empires less profitable. Surely, there must be some way to accomplish such a thing. Anyone have any ideas?
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Gang wars have made one of our biggest cities into a war zone, and we're fighting over gun control?

    Gun control doesn't work. Gangs don't care what the gun laws are. That much is obvious, or should be by now.

    So, what does work? How do we get rid of gangs, or can we? What is it that keeps them going and encourages people to become involved in them?

    This is a serious question, and is not limited to Chicago or New York. We have a terrible gang problem right here in River City, as it were. Gangs are active all over the country.

    I suspect that if we allocated as many resources as we do on our global war on terror into the terror at home and started treating violent gangs as terrorist organizations it wouldn't take us long to clean things up. Amazing how we will cross the globe to stop suspected terrorists and spend trillions in the process while we largely ignore those in our back yard.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I suspect that if we allocated as many resources as we do on our global war on terror into the terror at home and started treating violent gangs as terrorist organizations it wouldn't take us long to clean things up. Amazing how we will cross the globe to stop suspected terrorists and spend trillions in the process while we largely ignore those in our back yard.
    Interesting idea, and no doubt correct.

    Now, do we start using predator drones against gang leaders?
    How about "enhanced interrogation"?
    Indefinite detention without trial?
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    "Chicago. Chicago. My kind of town" ............ own it libtards. A cesspool of liberal social engineering. Getting worse.


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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I suspect that if we allocated as many resources as we do on our global war on terror into the terror at home and started treating violent gangs as terrorist organizations it wouldn't take us long to clean things up. Amazing how we will cross the globe to stop suspected terrorists and spend trillions in the process while we largely ignore those in our back yard.
    The city of Chicago is responsible for the city of Chicago....................... DUH.

    If the state of Illinois wants to allocate additional resources into Chicago, it sure can.

    But I'll be damned if my Florida tax dollars are going to support a corrupt liberal stupidity in Chicago !!!

    Illinois is teetering on bankruptcy as it is. Liberalism writ large. Let them rot in their own liberal waste until they get an f'ing brain..

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Interesting idea, and no doubt correct.

    Now, do we start using predator drones against gang leaders?
    How about "enhanced interrogation"?
    Indefinite detention without trial?
    Negative to all three. I dont support any of those abroad or at home.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    The city of Chicago is responsible for the city of Chicago....................... DUH.

    If the state of Illinois wants to allocate additional resources into Chicago, it sure can.

    But I'll be damned if my Florida tax dollars are going to support a corrupt liberal stupidity in Chicago !!!

    Illinois is teetering on bankruptcy as it is. Liberalism writ large. Let them rot in their own liberal waste until they get an f'ing brain..
    I wasn't being Chicago specific I was talking nationally. All states have a gang problem in one area or another.

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