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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    What works. Neighborhoods cooperating with police to remove criminals from the streets. People taking responsibility for themselves, their children and their neighborhoods by fighting back. Prison sentences and punishments that actually meant something.
    That would work, no doubt. Now, to get the people who live in gang infested areas to cooperate with police and take responsibility for themselves, and to have punishment that actually means something.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I would say more prosperity, but hell, good jobs are leaving, not coming, so we will probably start seeing more and more neighborhoods with this kind of crap going on.

    What they need to do is get a bunch of Rednecks to come over, drink some beer, have a Bar-B-Que and point out the bad boys. Then let the Rednecks show the locals how to "get're done".
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    What works. Neighborhoods cooperating with police to remove criminals from the streets. People taking responsibility for themselves, their children and their neighborhoods by fighting back. Prison sentences and punishments that actually meant something.

    I would say more prosperity, but hell, good jobs are leaving, not coming, so we will probably start seeing more and more neighborhoods with this kind of crap going on.

    What they need to do is get a bunch of Rednecks to come over, drink some beer, have a Bar-B-Que and point out the bad boys. Then let the Rednecks show the locals how to "get're done".


    We have gangs around here. They are unable to dominate the way they do in Chicago, though, since the local population is just as well armed and perfectly willing to shoot their asses if they push their luck.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The rednecks are coming! The rednecks are coming! One if by land, two if by sea!
    Well, I figure, even a shot never gets fired, after a weekend of 200 or so Bubba's and friends running through the neighborhood in their pickups drinking beer and playing country music, they will do just about anything to make sure they don't come back again.
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence [ Chiraq ]

    Every single one of the people shot and/or killed were shot after 11.45 PM. That is what they all have in common. Most were shot in the wee dark hours of the night and the last one was shot after 4 AM. What the hell is a 16 old doing hanging at 11.45 PM?

    At 16 my daddy would have kicked my butt and the butts of everyone in the vicinity if he'd found my 16 year old ass hanging out at 11.45 PM. Sure I was able to on a few occasions, but only with special permission, otherwise I had to be home by 11.00 PM.

    Here's a Risky Suggestion for Chicago:

    Curfew for troubled parts of town. There's no question that certain parts of the 2nd City (children and adults) are in need serious adult supervision. Start by curfewing minors, follow by doing the same with paroled felons, those out on bail, people from other neighborhoods, people convicted of drug violations. Keep them off the street. Bars and lounges in the troubled areas close at midnight.

    Police should target known previous offenders their associates and people who fit offender profiles. Yes, profiles. As a cop you'd probably be wasting a great deal of your time targeting a little grandmother in a wheelchair coming home from church at 6.30 PM on Wednesday night, no? Screw a bunch of political correctness. Get real and make the neighborhoods safe. Those people bloody well know who the offenders are.

    Make parents responsible. If they are unable to control their kid, the kid is removed from the home and the parent loses whatever government benefits are connected to the child.
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Well, I figure, even a shot never gets fired, after a weekend of 200 or so Bubba's and friends running through the neighborhood in their pickups drinking beer and playing country music, they will do just about anything to make sure they don't come back again.
    Now, that just might work.
    Do the rednecks get to carry assault rifles over their shoulders, or do they have to settle for their 30:06 deer rifles?
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    What works. Neighborhoods cooperating with police to remove criminals from the streets. People taking responsibility for themselves, their children and their neighborhoods by fighting back. Prison sentences and punishments that actually meant something.

    I would say more prosperity, but hell, good jobs are leaving, not coming, so we will probably start seeing more and more neighborhoods with this kind of crap going on.

    What they need to do is get a bunch of Rednecks to come over, drink some beer, have a Bar-B-Que and point out the bad boys. Then let the Rednecks show the locals how to "get're done".
    The rednecks would be mopped up in less than a half hour.....and would just make the bangers day.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Chicago has some of the strongest gun control laws in the country.


    Seven people were killed and at least 30 others were shot in violence that plagued Chicago over Father's Day weekend.

    Six of the fatalities and 11 other shootings occurred overnight Saturday leading into Father's Day, including the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old boy.



    Source: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence | NBC Chicago
    "Oh" I see they changed the bodycount..... now going thru a weekend without anyone getting killed or shot. Is what's considered abnormal here.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence [ Chiraq ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Every single one of the people shot and/or killed were shot after 11.45 PM. That is what they all have in common. Most were shot in the wee dark hours of the night and the last one was shot after 4 AM. What the hell is a 16 old doing hanging at 11.45 PM?

    At 16 my daddy would have kicked my butt and the butts of everyone in the vicinity if he'd found my 16 year old ass hanging out at 11.45 PM. Sure I was able to on a few occasions, but only with special permission, otherwise I had to be home by 11.00 PM.

    Here's a Risky Suggestion for Chicago:

    Curfew for troubled parts of town. There's no question that certain parts of the 2nd City (children and adults) are in need serious adult supervision. Start by curfewing minors, follow by doing the same with paroled felons, those out on bail, people from other neighborhoods, people convicted of drug violations. Keep them off the street. Bars and lounges in the troubled areas close at midnight.

    Police should target known previous offenders their associates and people who fit offender profiles. Yes, profiles. As a cop you'd probably be wasting a great deal of your time targeting a little grandmother in a wheelchair coming home from church at 6.30 PM on Wednesday night, no? Screw a bunch of political correctness. Get real and make the neighborhoods safe. Those people bloody well know who the offenders are.

    Make parents responsible. If they are unable to control their kid, the kid is removed from the home and the parent loses whatever government benefits are connected to the child.
    Heya RT .....I am not sure about the City proper. But some Neighborhoods and Suburbs do have a Curfew in affect. Some have brought that back around to help try curb some of the violence.

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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Now, that just might work.
    Do the rednecks get to carry assault rifles over their shoulders, or do they have to settle for their 30:06 deer rifles?
    Uh. One of my deer rifles is a Bushmaster M-4 style.
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    Re: 7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Gang wars have made one of our biggest cities into a war zone, and we're fighting over gun control?

    Gun control doesn't work. Gangs don't care what the gun laws are. That much is obvious, or should be by now.

    So, what does work? How do we get rid of gangs, or can we? What is it that keeps them going and encourages people to become involved in them?

    This is a serious question, and is not limited to Chicago or New York. We have a terrible gang problem right here in River City, as it were. Gangs are active all over the country.
    First, this stuff speaks neither for nor against gun control. The cheap effort a making this type of argument misses the mark. Guns neither make us safe nor have no use in safety. They are mere tools and nothing more.

    Now gangs are another issue, and as old as violence. But like poverty, gangs and violence are not a one answer solution type of problem. People would have to make fundamental changes in their nature to make any real dent in those problems. I don't see that happening. But if you want to really help, working poverty and get in trenches with those living there. Show as many as possible a better way. Show what is not viewable buy those in the fight. What we can't see, we won't try.

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