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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm very serious. "Science", used to say that lobotomies were the sure-fired cure for insanity.



    Mean nothing, eh?

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    It means nothing to you that billions of our dollars are being poured into a lie?

    There's more credible evidence that Saddm Hussein had WMD than there is that global warming is real.
    This boils down to him using the word "trick" and your mind associates that word with negativity therefore you interpret the entire scientific body of evidence supporting climate change as false. That is absurd.

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and they don't believe that any more, why?
    Is it because the bloggers said it wasn't so, or did it have to do with scientific research?
    The scientific research hasn't proven that man made global warming/climate change/abracadabra really exists. Some of the research has been faked to come to the appropriate conclusion.

    I'm not opposed to scientific research. I'm only saying that we need to stop trying to make a record player needle out of a peanut.
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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There was a consensus that the Earth was flat at one time, too.

    During the Civil War, doctors thought that gangrene was caused by a noxious vapor in the air.
    We've come a long way since then, apparently you haven't. What would you have us do? Reject science because it isn't perfect? By all means put your beliefs into action and start by turning off your computer.

    Thinks this through... should we

    a) Do nothing because science isn't perfect and we could be wrong.

    b) Do what we can based on the best of our knowledge so far?

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The scientific research hasn't proven that man made global warming/climate change/abracadabra really exists. Some of the research has been faked to come to the appropriate conclusion.

    I'm not opposed to scientific research. I'm only saying that we need to stop trying to make a record player needle out of a peanut.
    The scientific research hasn't proven that man made global warming really exists to the satisfaction of the anti science bloggers, and never will.

    and dismissing modern science because of disproved ideas of past is absurd. Because the "bad air causes gangrene" notion turned out to be false does not mean that every scientific theory is going to be false.
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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    This boils down to him using the word "trick" and your mind associates that word with negativity therefore you interpret the entire scientific body of evidence supporting climate change as false. That is absurd.
    The global warming research was FAKED!

    There are more scientists who say that global warming isn't real than the other way around.

    Global warming models could be 'fundamentally wrong' | The Daily Caller

    But, of course researchers are going to keep pushing the hoax, when The President of The United States promises to fund them indefinitely. Who's going to save us from greedy scientists?
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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The scientific research hasn't proven that man made global warming really exists to the satisfaction of the anti science bloggers, and never will.

    and dismissing modern science because of disproved ideas of past is absurd. Because the "bad air causes gangrene" notion turned out to be false does not mean that every scientific theory is going to be false.
    Even climate experts are saying that the models are wrong. Global warming models could be 'fundamentally wrong' | The Daily Caller
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    We've come a long way since then, apparently you haven't. What would you have us do? Reject science because it isn't perfect? By all means put your beliefs into action and start by turning off your computer.

    Thinks this through... should we

    a) Do nothing because science isn't perfect and we could be wrong.

    b) Do what we can based on the best of our knowledge so far?
    Even though, "what we know so far", is wrong and based on sham research?
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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Even though, "what we know so far", is wrong and based on sham research?
    Its your choice if you want to believe the views of a small minority. Just don't lie and pretend as though that is the official position of the majority of the scientific community.

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Its your choice if you want to believe the views of a small minority. Just don't lie and pretend as though that is the official position of the majority of the scientific community.
    There was a majority of "scientists" that said Earth is flat, too. Skeptics were killed as heretics by the church.

    Progressives really aren't all that, "progressive".
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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    No one said it was gonna be easy, but it might be easier than stopping it, and a combination of reduction and adapting might be best.
    If the Russian permafrost melts, we are doomed. There will be no adapting if world temperature increases by 2 more degrees. Humans can adapt to climate disasters but not destruction of the biosphere. If our source of life gets cut off, we can't just go to the bank and take out more biosphere on credit. People think that the environment behaves like our made up human economy. It doesn't. Once the biosphere collapses we are dead, period.

    It's a complete fallacy to assume that humans will adapt and survive rapid global climate change and biosphere destruction. There is no evidence to support that. Humans have never been around during the kind of mass extinctions we are seeing today, and in all past versions of what is currently happening, most land species did not survive.

    This is not climate change alarmism, it's simple scientific fact. China and the United States need to wake the **** up already and stop pretending that this isn't happening, or that, "Oh well, it's happening, let's just adapt."

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