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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Let me ask the question for the right since they are not able to put their true thoughts into words due to cowardice. Why the hell should we care? Seriously, it is quite inconvenient to give a damn about future problems old white people will not have to face. A few decades from now they will be dead anyway. Even if they are not they will be pissing themselves and trying to remember their own names. They are not teenagers and they face death much sooner than the youth of today. Those are those youthful kids they hate so damned much anyway for supporting gays, blacks, immigrants, and any other god forsaken group that happens to just want to live. It is what those kids deserve for not running to their party anyway. So why not live it up now? They will not have to face the future. I am sure god will handle it because he seems to be really up on granting wishes and saving people.

    So stop pestering the right about this. It is not an issue that effects them. They have no concern about their actions, and they live purely for their own gratification at the expense of others. It is terribly bothersome for you to guilt them about the future of a world they will never see.
    Didn't take long for it to become a race thing. Nice!!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This.

    Man made or not man made is beyond the point to me. The reality is that our entire structure in this country is too ingrained with fossil fuels to make any true sizable shift from it in any type of recent future, and you have multiple emerging countries like China and India who are going to be latching onto Fossil Fuels in a major way. Even with a fairly "swift" change on the part of the U.S., say 10 years, it's still unlikely to have any significant impact even if "Man" is the primary element causing the warming.

    Is it wrong or bad to ENCOURAGE and PROMOTE "Green Energy" and a move away from fossil fuels? Absolutely not. But attempting to massively legislate and regulate it and make it a primary focus is like trying to put ones finger into a hole in a dike while the water level is set to go over top of the wall anyways.

    One of the greatest features of the Human Race is our ability to adapt to our environment. As much, if not more, focus needs to be on responding to that and helping adapt.

    There was a technology that was in the news some years back. A group had been working on cement that could "eat" CO2 emissions. Another was working on using insects and/or bacteria to process waste into crude oil. These are great types of technology that could massively help in the future while keeping out infastructure from needing a radical rework...but they're things largely ignored becuase it's not been about adapting, it's not been about realism, it's about a slavish adherence to a notion of "Green".
    The, "notion of 'Green'", has nothing to do with saving the environment. It has to do with organizing the populace behind a government apparatus that excercises more control over the people and thereby pushing it's actual agenda. In the first part of the 20th Century, the Leftists used war as the crisis de'jour. Now, it's "Climate Change".
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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The, "notion of 'Green'", has nothing to do with saving the environment. It has to do with organizing the populace behind a government apparatus that excercises more control over the people and thereby pushing it's actual agenda. In the first part of the 20th Century, the Leftists used war as the crisis de'jour. Now, it's "Climate Change".

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    My brilliance boggled your mind, eh?

    It's ok, you'll get aboard sooner, or later.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The, "notion of 'Green'", has nothing to do with saving the environment. It has to do with organizing the populace behind a government apparatus that excercises more control over the people and thereby pushing it's actual agenda.
    The notion of 'republican' has nothing to do with individual liberty and responsibility. It has to do with organizing the populace behind a government apparatus that exercises more control over the people and thereby pushing it's actual agenda of oppressing the poor and racism.

    The notion of 'democrat' has nothing to do with justice. It has to do with organizing... blah blah blah.

    The notion of 'Christian' has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with organizing... blah blah blah.



    See how that works?

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My brilliance boggled your mind, eh?

    It's ok, you'll get aboard sooner, or later.
    Hardly. Quite the opposite.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Private industry gravitates towards the cheaper option. This is rarely the cleaner option.
    Private industry gravitates towards the options that work, that are dependable, that won't cause them to increase their prices on their customers so as to not lose valuable customers.

    Obama's new NSA Data Farm uses 65 Megawatts of power.

    Do you think he powered it with Bald Eagle Killing Windmills and low effeciency Solar ?

    He wants the damn the to work.

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    After seeing some of the ridiculous comments on this thread, I don't want to hear another word from the Right about problems related to our national debt. Ever. Considering the many trillions--possibly hundreds of trillions--of dollars that climate change is expected to cost, a $17-trillion debt is puny by comparison.

    tererun, as usual, hit the nail on the head with her post. The typically older people who have no problem with our trashing the environment--and it is not all of them, but many of them--should expect the same disrespect in return. Quid pro quo.
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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    There is a realization coming, the organic hydrocarbons are a large but finite supply, without which four out five people will starve to death.
    This might not sound as alarming or spectacular as the AGW theory of catastrophe, but it is, for humans, both the real problem and a much more catastrophic one than an average temperature rise of a few degrees.

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    Re: Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    After seeing some of the ridiculous comments on this thread, I don't want to hear another word from the Right about problems related to our national debt. Ever. Considering the many trillions--possibly hundreds of trillions--of dollars that climate change is expected to cost, a $17-trillion debt is puny by comparison.

    tererun, as usual, hit the nail on the head with her post. The typically older people who have no problem with our trashing the environment--and it is not all of them, but many of them--should expect the same disrespect in return. Quid pro quo.
    The national debt is real. The "hundreds of trillions of dollars that climate change is expected to cost us" is not.

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