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    Re: Brazil Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    No one need ask my permission for anything. I am not God, a government or any other granter of permissions.

    As to saving your country, in my opinion, the jury is still out on that and what exactly it is you are doing.

    What I do know is that the protesters are acting like a mob, both the ones from this thread and the ones in Turkey. I do not support mobs. Armies, yes, mobs, no.
    will you prove it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It was not a retreat. One statement is about protesters and mobs, one was about Armies. Two different things.
    People are people. The state does not have superior moral authority to use force.

    The belief that they do lies at the heart authoritarianism
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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    People are people. The state does not have superior moral authority to use force.

    The belief that they do lies at the heart authoritarianism
    Nor did I say "the state" did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Nor did I say "the state" did.
    Sure looks that way to me

    Unless you're saying that it's OK when a stateless military, such as the Mafia, does it. In that case, the Mafia is not a "mob"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    The times, they are changing.
    Yes, but, then again, they always are.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Sure looks that way to me

    Unless you're saying that it's OK when a stateless military, such as the Mafia, does it. In that case, the Mafia is not a "mob"
    Perhaps if you had read the material I suggested, you just might understand a little more.
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    Re: Brazil Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by braymoore View Post
    Brazil protesters angered by fare hikes promise more demonstrations after violent clashes | Fox News

    The people of Brazil are finally waking up and doing something about their government that steals so much from them. In the three years that I have lived here in Rio there have been many issues and laws passed that the people have complained about but never done anything about it. Just sit and complain to each other and on the internet. So I must say that it is finally refreashing to see that they are doing something other than crying like little babies. In a country where they have so much potential and the government doesn't want that to happen becuase that means less money in their pockets. I support the actions of these my Brazilian brothers and hope them the best.
    Damn shame the American people haven't got the same gumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Perhaps if you had read the material I suggested, you just might understand a little more.
    Perhaps if you defended your argument, I might just think it was a reasonable one.
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    Re: Brazil Protests

    today, reuters:

    As many as 200,000 demonstrators marched through the streets of Brazil's biggest cities on Monday in a swelling wave of protest tapping into widespread anger at poor public services, police violence and government corruption.

    The marches, organized mostly through snowballing social media campaigns, blocked streets and halted traffic in more than a half-dozen cities, including Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Belo Horizonte and Brasilia, where demonstrators climbed onto the roof of Brazil's Congress building and then stormed it.

    Monday's demonstrations were the latest in a flurry of protests in the past two weeks that have added to growing unease over Brazil's sluggish economy, high inflation and a spurt in violent crime.

    While most of the protests unfolded as a festive display of dissent, some demonstrators in Rio threw rocks at police, set fire to a parked car and vandalized the state assembly building. Vandals also destroyed property in the southern city of Porto Alegre.

    Around the country, protesters waved Brazilian flags, dancing and chanting slogans such as "The people have awakened" and "Pardon the inconvenience, Brazil is changing."

    The epicenter of Monday's march shifted from Sao Paulo, where some 65,000 people took to the streets late in the afternoon, to Rio. There, as protesters gathered throughout the evening, crowds ballooned to 100,000 people, local police said. At least 20,000 more gathered in Belo Horizonte.

    The protests have gathered pace as Brazil is hosting the Confederation's Cup, a dry run for next year's World Cup soccer championship. The government hopes these events, along with the 2016 Summer Olympics, will showcase Brazil as an emerging power on the global stage.

    Brazil also is gearing up to welcome more than 2 million visitors in July as Pope Francis makes his first foreign trip for a gathering of Catholic youth in Rio.

    Contrasting the billions in taxpayer money spent on new stadiums with the shoddy state of Brazil's public services, protesters are using the Confederation's Cup as a counterpoint to amplify their concerns. The tournament got off to shaky start this weekend when police clashed with demonstrators outside stadiums at the opening matches in Brasilia and Rio.

    More protests are being organized for the coming days. It is unclear what specific response from authorities - such as a reduction in the hike of transport fares - would lead the loose collection of organizers across Brazil to consider stopping them.

    For President Dilma Rousseff, the demonstrations come at a delicate time, as price increases and lackluster growth begin to loom over an expected run for re-election next year.

    Polls show Rousseff still is widely popular, especially among poor and working-class voters, but her approval ratings began to slip in recent weeks for the first time since taking office in 2011. Rousseff was booed at Saturday's Confederations Cup opener as protesters gathered outside.

    Through a spokeswoman, Rousseff called the protests "legitimate" and said peaceful demonstrations are "part of democracy." The president, a leftist guerrilla as a young woman, also said that it was "befitting of youth to protest."
    Biggest protests in 20 years sweep Brazil | Reuters

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