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Marriage is a legal SS partnership in many states and now federally recognized.
There is no SSM in more states than states with SSM.
Marriage is a legal SS partnership in many states and now federally recognized.
Sure, and even in the polls where civil unions are mentioned the largest % favor marriage.
Not the 2012 poll introduced by, I believe, Captain Courtesy. Show me a poll (I won't ask for a propensity) where it's so. Where SS partnerships is a viable choice.
There is no SSM in more states than states with SSM.
And in the history of this country, there, at one time, were more states that banned interracial marriage than those that allowed it.
How you consider yourself right, left, moderate, etc. (almost everyone thinks they're moderate) is relative. Just as how everyone else sees your political beliefs... relative. So if you think someone else's politics are radical or dangerous, just think, they probably think yours is too.
Yes, but there's a third possibility as well, isn't there? Legal SS partnerships.
Your poll records the permissiveness by the American people of gay rights.
This is where the disconnect in these polls occur: people assume permissiveness of gay rights equals SSM.
Yeah, you did. Roguenuke and Aderleth both pointed it out, too.
You should probably listen to your own advice.
Cute. You still need to actually think about it.
I have. Do you have an actual point?
Yes. One can, at least somewhat, exert control over their sexual attractions.
Yes. One can, at least somewhat, exert control over their sexual attractions.
But there is no reason that homosexuals should have to just because some do not approve of same sex relationships.
I know for a fact that for many, homosexuality truly is an "alternative lifestyle" and is a rejection of the heterosexual social and relationship model. I've discussed this with homosexuals for years and years and only recently was there a sudden change to the meme because even my homosexual brother in the past has admitted that marriage was a "hetero" institution that wouldn't work and wasn't even a good idea for homosexuals. The hetero model was exactly what they were avoiding....
Now all of a sudden they want to mimic it? You know what... I would actually buy that somewhat for the women. I don't buy it at all for the homosexual men. I expect the following to bear out with time:
1. Homosexual marriages will be much more rare among homosexuals than heterosexual marriages.
2. Homosexual marriages will be much more common among homosexual women than homosexual men.
3. Homosexual divorces will be somewhat higher than heterosexual divorces with the men skewing the numbers while the women probably faring about as well as heterosexuals, in general.
4. Within ten yeas, the homosexual marriage novelty will have worn off and the rate of homosexual marriage will drop to nearly zero with the exceptions being women that want to have kids and men who want to rob their sugar daddies through a divorce court.
The rate of AIDS being 1 in 5 among homosexual males and I don't think it takes any large stretch of imagination to realize that the expensive treatment and insurance benefits of marriage have something to do with the recent drive to create same-sex marriage options. It's an angle that doesn't get talked about enough.
If by "control" you mean repress them or ignore them or otherwise fail to act on them, that is obvious. If by exert control you mean change them, you are wrong, and you've already tried and failed to make that point.
But there is no reason that homosexuals should have to just because some do not approve of same sex relationships.
People want to get married out of love not health insurance.
Gay marriage was never an issue until the AIDS epidemic and the subsequent issues with "partner benefits". If you are gay then you know the real problem with what I'm saying is that it's one of the dirty little secrets of the LGBT community that has been trying to figure out ways to work through the AIDS crisis and the ensuing difficulties of insurance, medical costs, hospitalization issues, etc. You and I both know there will be a lot of homosexual marriages purely for the sake of insurance, now. 1 in 5. That's a scary number. As much as we know about prevention and it's still 1 in 5 for homosexual males? Insurance is absolutely a part of this discussion and one of the drivers for the "gay marriage" that no one wanted until the aids epidemic came along.