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Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

Texmex said:
This is not true.

The KJV bible was translated into English in 1611. One of the earliest English dictionaries was Noah Webster's American Dictionary of the English Language, written in 1828. The definition according the Webster is:

Sodomy -- A crime against nature.
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Since all of the things I mentioned occur in nature... as does same sex activity, this definition is incorrect.


Then there is the Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary, which was copy-written in 1983, which states:

Sodomy -- any sexual intercourse regarded as abnormal, as between persons of the same sex, especially males, or between a person an an animal.
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This definition is subjective and incomplete. Abnormal needs to be defined and it only lists certain types of sexual activity it qualifies as abnormal.

Here are some links with the definition of sodomy:

From Wikipedia:

Sodomy /ˈsɒdəmi/ is any non-penile/vaginal copulation-like act, such as oral or anal sex, or sex between a person and an animal.
Sodomy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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From Dictionary.com:

[h=2]sod·om·y[/h] [sod-uh-mee] Show IPA
noun 1. anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex.

2. copulation with a member of the same sex.

3. bestiality

Sodomy | Define Sodomy at Dictionary.com
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From Merriam-Webster:

[h=2]sod·omy[/h] noun \ˈsä-də-mē\



[h=2]Definition of SODOMY[/h] : anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal

Sodomy - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
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So, no, you are incorrect.
 
Texmex said:
I don't accept sodomite definitions, or Wikipedia definitions.
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Your definition is incorrect. Your acceptance or lack thereof does not alter that.
 
Jerry said:
That's not what you said. This is what you said:

Give your evidence for that claim.
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i admit that i worded the post poorly. my point is that heterosexuals are allowed to marry someone of the opposite sex, while homosexuals cannot marry someone of the same sex in most states. it's only a matter of time until the SCOTUS recognizes this as an equal protection issue. my hope is that this happens sooner rather than later.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Your definition is incorrect. Your acceptance or lack thereof does not alter that.
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If someone wants to commit the disgusting sin of sodomy, nothing any dictionary or the Word of God says that will change their mind.

So, captain, enjoy it while you can, because when you face God, you will regret your sinful choice.
 
Helix said:
i admit that i worded the post poorly. my point is that heterosexuals are allowed to marry someone of the opposite sex, while homosexuals cannot marry someone of the same sex in most states. it's only a matter of time until the SCOTUS recognizes this as an equal protection issue. my hope is that this happens sooner rather than later.
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You always word your posts poorly. Think before you post. Review your post and make edits. How the hell are we supposed to have any kind of debate or discussion if it takes a whole ****ing page just to understand what you meant in one post? You really need to clean your posts up. I post from a phone and can't spell to save my life and I'm not that bad.
 
Texmex said:
If someone wants to commit the disgusting sin of sodomy, nothing any dictionary or the Word of God says that will change their mind.

So, captain, enjoy it while you can, because when you face God, you will regret your sinful choice.
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This does not surprise me. I prove you wrong and you become all preachy. Can't debate the topic, so make some silly, irrelevant soapbox post. I am quite content with my relationship with God. I do not lie about or equivocate definitions just to fit my agenda, unlike you. I do think there's a commandment you're breaking in regards to lying. You might want to consider that when God looks at you and calls you on your sin.
 
Jerry said:
You always word your posts poorly. Think before you post. Review your post and make edits. How the hell are we supposed to have any kind of debate or discussion if it takes a whole ****ing page just to understand what you meant in one post? You really need to clean your posts up. I post from a phone and can't spell to save my life and I'm not that bad.
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i guess i missed the part where you addressed the fundamental argument. heterosexuals can marry those of the opposite sex, and we enjoy many legal benefits if we do so. homosexuals, on the other hand, are not able to marry same sex partners in most states, and are denied those same benefits under the law. this is a clear violation of the equal protection clause.
 
Texmex said:
If someone wants to commit the disgusting sin of sodomy, nothing any dictionary or the Word of God says that will change their mind.

So, captain, enjoy it while you can, because when you face God, you will regret your sinful choice.
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Babycakes, relax. I said I'd be there tomorrow and I'd 'punish' you for all your 'sin.' I know how you like it. ;)
 
Jerry said:
You always word your posts poorly. Think before you post. Review your post and make edits. How the hell are we supposed to have any kind of debate or discussion if it takes a whole ****ing page just to understand what you meant in one post? You really need to clean your posts up. I post from a phone and can't spell to save my life and I'm not that bad.
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You know Jerry before you go criticizing someone on their posting skills, you need to recognize that half the time no one knows if you're serious or not because (through your OWN admission) you troll many threads just to give a rise out of people. Maybe you should take your OWN advice.
 
roguenuke said:
The difference is that those things, cats and tables, are not guaranteed rights by the US Constitution, citizens of the US are, including gay citizens and anyone who might want to marry another person that they would want to marry but can't just because of their gender.
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Do men have a constitutional right to marry their daughters? Assuming, of course, that everyone is above age of consent.
 
What if...? said:
Seems pretty simple.

One set of rules for everybody.

Not one set for some and another for the rest.
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There has always been a single definition of marriage which applied to everybody.
 
Texmex said:
I don't accept sodomite definitions, or Wikipedia definitions.
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What's your definition and what's your source?
How about Merriam webster?


sod·omy
noun \ˈsä-də-mē\









Definition of SODOMY


: anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also: copulation with an animal

— sod·om·it·ic or sod·om·it·i·cal adjective
 
TheNextEra said:
You know Jerry before you go criticizing someone on their posting skills, you need to recognize that half the time no one knows if you're serious or not because (through your OWN admission) you troll many threads just to give a rise out of people. Maybe you should take your OWN advice.
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My sincerly held beliefs are what piss people off. I don't have to kid or make things up to piss people off, I just have to be my natural self.

Like shooting rioters. I'm not kidding or trying to troll when I support killing rioters. If you riot you should be shot where you stand.

The problem is you people assume I'm insincere.
 
Jerry said:
Post 273.
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Jerry said:
Yes it is. No one can otherwise marry the same-sex, and everyone can otherwise marry the opposite sex.
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which is as useless to them as limiting your marital choices to men only would be to you. you have the right to marry someone you're in love with, and the state will give you benefits because of the marriage. in much of the country, gays don't have the same right.

Jerry said:
If you want the State's blessing then you need to be serving a "compelling State interest", which means raising children and/or fostering a stable and healthy long term relationship. Rather or not you like a penis in your bottom is totally irrelevant.
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Gays already do both.
 
Jerry said:
My sincerly held beliefs are what piss people off. I don't have to kid or make things up to piss people off, I just have to be my natural self.

Like shooting rioters. I'm not kidding or trying to troll when I support killing rioters. If you riot you should be shot where you stand.

The problem is you people assume I'm insincere.
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Wrong.

Rioters should be given the option of ceasing their violence against people and property or to be shot.

The second they continue their violence against people and property after being given that option, they should be shot.

Just wanted to clarrify that for you. :)
 
If all persons in the USA have the unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, gay marriage should be legal.
 
wbcoleman said:
Do men have a constitutional right to marry their daughters? Assuming, of course, that everyone is above age of consent.
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Not if the state can show a legitimate state interest is furthered by restricting marriage based on close relation status. Which, so far, they have successfully been able to do, at least when there is blood relation and/or they were raised in the same household. I believe the state can show a legitimate state interest being furthered in not allowing parents to marry their children or siblings to marry in two ways, huge potential for genetic problems in offspring and undue influence in the relationship prior to age of consent. Neither of these things would be an issue in same sex marriage and the state is unable to show a true state interest is being furthered by restricting marriage based on sex/gender.
 
wbcoleman said:
Do men have a constitutional right to marry their daughters? Assuming, of course, that everyone is above age of consent.
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There is a legitimate public health concern against allowing inbreeding.

Plus the fact that such relationships are often the result of parental abuse.
 
Helix said:
which is as useless to them as limiting your marital choices to men only would be to you.
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Yes, it is usless, but still equal treatment.

you have the right to marry someone you're in love with....
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No I don't. There are all kinds of restrictions I'm under. I cannot marry just whomever I love. If I fall in love with someone who's married, for example, I'm sol.
 
Kanstantine said:
Wrong.

Rioters should be given the option of ceasing their violence against people and property or to be shot.

The second they continue their violence against people and property after being given that option, they should be shot.

Just wanted to clarrify that for you. :)
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I never took that option away. I'm not forcing anyone to riot, they retain the right, option and ability to stop at any time...or better yet, not to start.

With the first broken window or flipped car sould the arms of citizens cut rioters down.

If my Guard unit activates to counter a riot, understand that I will follow the order to fire.
 
Jerry said:
Yes, it is usless, but still equal treatment.
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no. it isn't.


Jerry said:
No I don't. There are all kinds of restrictions I'm under. I cannot marry just whomever I love. If I fall in love with someone who's married, for example, I'm sol.
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no, you aren't. she can get a divorce and then marry you. happens every single day. your example isn't analogous.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I think heterosexuals should be allowed to marry people of the same sex, too. :2razz:
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I actualy know a few hetero guys who probably would. They grew up best friends and are like brothers. They do everything together.
 
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