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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Again, you're posting like an ideologue.

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    You are seriously saying that? WOW to funny

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Where is the poll question about calling the SS domestic partnership civil unions something other than marriage that correctly differentiates between OS ones and SS ones?

    When the poll does not present all the information in the form of logical and topically relevant valid questions, then responders have to decide between letting SS couples have their recognition by government and private enterprise but stomaching "marriage" as the description, or rejecting "marriage" as the description and thus also the recognition.

    You'd have a lot more people supporting the recognition of SS couples than in the mere mid-50 percentages if you let them accept the recognition but under a different and appropriate name other than "marriage".

    Again, obviously.

    Put some detailed and deeper thought into your arguments.
    Since the federal government never has nor even has attempted to recognize any other unions besides marriage, then there is no other legitimate union to be asked about besides marriage. You cannot ask about something that does not truly exist, national recognition of domestic unions other than marriage.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Rejecting the results. So sad. Not checking the link, even sadder.
    Here you whine with false accusation, when it's you who didn't present the relevant facts you're supposedly debating me on.

    So, let me do it for you.

    Here's the results on the question about allowing SS couples civil union domestic partner ships but calling those relationships something other than "marriage":

    "Do you believe gays and lesbians should be allowed to get legally married, allowed a legal partnership similar to but not called marriage, or should there be no legal recognition given to gay and lesbian relationships?"

    .............................Legally married....legal partnership....No legal recognition....Unsure
    ....................................%............. .........%..........................%............. .......%
    5/13-15/12...................37......................33... ......................25.....................5
    8/10-11/10...................37......................29... ......................28.....................6
    5/12-13/09...................33......................33... ......................29.....................5
    11/4-5/06 LV................30......................30...... ...................32.....................7
    6/13-14/06...................27.....................25.... ......................39.....................8
    5/18-19/04...................25.....................26.... ......................40.....................9
    3/3-4/04......................20......................33 .........................40.....................7

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    Notice that the most recent response causes a drop from your mid-50s percentage for "marriage" to 37 percent!

    And, notice that the 29 percent who favor recognition but not oxymoronically calling it "marriage" came from, not only the "marriage" group but from the opposed to SS marriage group.

    Thus supporting SS recognition jumps to 70% if you call it rightly something other than "marriage".

    This proves my point that the majority does not support SS .. wait for it .. .. marriage, as 63% do not support SS "marriage" though 70% want SS relationships recognized.

    Now sure, there will be extreme ideologues who'll refuse anything other than the oxymoronic "marriage" as the term for these SS recognitions, but they're a really tiny and unreasonable extreme.

    So, though you falsely accuse me of not reading the link, it apparently is you who didn't read it .. either that or you purposely omitted the poll of topical relevance because it refuted your debate point.

    Whatever, clearly SS organizers would have much more success if they'd simply heed what I'm saying and work to create homarriage domestic partnership civil unions in every state.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Here you whine with false accusation, when it's you who didn't present the relevant facts you're supposedly debating me on.

    So, let me do it for you.

    Here's the results on the question about allowing SS couples civil union domestic partner ships but calling those relationships something other than "marriage":

    Notice that the most recent response causes a drop from your mid-50s percentage for "marriage" to 37 percent!

    And, notice that the 29 percent who favor recognition but not oxymoronically calling it "marriage" came from, not only the "marriage" group but from the opposed to SS marriage group.

    Thus supporting SS recognition jumps to 70% if you call it rightly something other than "marriage".

    This proves my point that the majority does not support SS .. wait for it .. .. marriage, as 63% do not support SS "marriage" though 70% want SS relationships recognized.

    Now sure, there will be extreme ideologues who'll refuse anything other than the oxymoronic "marriage" as the term for these SS recognitions, but they're a really tiny and unreasonable extreme.

    So, though you falsely accuse me of not reading the link, it apparently is you who didn't read it .. either that or you purposely omitted the poll of topical relevance because it refuted your debate point.

    Whatever, clearly SS organizers would have much more success if they'd simply heed what I'm saying and work to create homarriage domestic partnership civil unions in every state.
    Where is the link?

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Since the federal government never has nor even has attempted to recognize any other unions besides marriage, then there is no other legitimate union to be asked about besides marriage. You cannot ask about something that does not truly exist, national recognition of domestic unions other than marriage.
    Actually, your statement here is blatantly false.

    Just take a gander at my immediately preceeding post above.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Where is the link?
    I was responding to Redress who presented the link here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061979648.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I was responding to Redress who presented the link here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061979648.
    Exen in that the largest % favors marriage. Sorry Charlie you lose again.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Exen in that the largest % favors marriage. Sorry Charlie you lose again.


    Meaningless, obviously.

    But, if that's all you've got, it's tantamount to capitulation.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    SF City Hall:

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    Taste the rainbow, muther****ers.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post


    Meaningless, obviously.
    It means even with that the largest % favor marriage. It means your ideological non-sense about "homarriage" is losing ground at a rapid pace.

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