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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Trip View Post
    How much time have you got?


    I can go forwards from the Civil War, or backwards from the current time period.

    How about we just look at something like ObamaCare in which the federal government has taken over de facto ownership of each individual citizens body without any authority, abrogated a full 80% of those 'unalienable' Bill of Rights, and fundamentally changed the relationship between citizen and government by inappropriate means, not that even an amendment might even fundamentally change that relationship, since the Bill of Rights are not grants by the Constitution, but only a listing of particulars.

    Did you not recognize any of this on your own? If you're not regarding the constitution, which your posts continually show, then its hypocritical to be asking about freedoms or rights, when your evident ideological focus will ensure subjugation.

    The thread is about gay marriage not healthcare.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Tyranny? LMAO Tyrants are known for restricting freedoms and rights. What freedom and or right of yours has been restricted?
    You were expecting something logical?

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The thread is about gay marriage not healthcare.
    Then specify your questions, and pay attention to the thread.

    I just had a big long post about government violating its authority, and acting by indiscriminate and conflicted rationales so as to dictate a determined agenda - that's tyranny, and that's in no way legitimate government in this Republic under the Constitution.

    I realize some actually want government dictate, and compulsion, but that's actually not the terms of this country.

    Evidently all that went over your head, or you'd not have asked the question to begin with.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Trip View Post
    Then specify your questions, and pay attention to the thread.

    I just had a big long post about government violating its authority, and acting in by indiscriminate and conflicted rationales so as to dictate a determined agenda - that's tyranny, and that's in no way legitimate government in this Republic under the Constitution.

    But evidently all that went over your head, or you'd not have asked the question to begin with.
    Pay attention to the thread? I'm not the one ranting about healthcare in a gay marriage thread!

    Now then pay attention. In the context of the thread, gay marriage, what freedom and or right of yours has been restricted?

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Pay attention to the thread? I'm not the one ranting about healthcare in a gay marriage thread!

    Now then pay attention. In the context of the thread, gay marriage, what freedom and or right of yours has been restricted?
    Read your question. Read my answer. Your question only questioned the existence of tyranny. My answer was entirely within the constraints of your question. What you challenged was the existence of any tyranny, and I answered that question.

    If you want a specific answer next time, then try actually asking the question you expect an answer to - it works better that way. In the meantime, you might go re-read my previous "big, long post" since you apparently didn't get even the overall significance of it. Next time, i'll just ignore your question because responding to you is evidently nothing but a waste of time.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Trip View Post
    Read your question. Read my answer. Your question only questioned the existence of tyranny. My answer was entirely within the constraints of your question. What you challenged was the existence of any tyranny, and I answered that question.

    If you want a specific answer next time, then try actually asking the question you expect an answer to - it works better that way. In the meantime, you might go re-read my previous "big, long post" since you apparently didn't get even the overall significance of it. Next time, i'll just ignore your question because responding to you is evidently nothing but a waste of time.

    So IOW in the context of the thread you have not lost any freedoms and or rights. Thanks for undermining your own hyperbolic rhetoric.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You were expecting something logical?
    From the massively obsessed? Nah not really.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Trip View Post
    Uh, that "opposite sex booty call" is still heterosexual reproduction, and the term "relationship" does not necessitate nor imply any sort of ongoing relationship between people, but references the ongoing and immutable relation of the sperm and ovum necessary for reproduction, to those two heterosexual sexes.

    Likewise, artificial insemination and in vitro fertilization also rely on that same heterosexual reproduction process, and rape as well.

    Again, and quite obviously, the reference to "relationship" does not refer to any ongoing relationship between partners, much less a stable one, but the relationship of the reproduction process to that heterosexuality... and it really is an inane claim that it might be.
    And it is not considered a "healthy relationship".

    And reproduction does not happen in even the majority of cases of heterosexual copulation. In fact, in many cases, heterosexuals go out of their way to prevent procreation.

    Marriage is not about procreation and procreation does not require marriage. Heck, now procreation doesn't even require sex.

    Overall though you are still wrong. There are still people who exist without any heterosexual relationship. A sperm and egg being joined is in no way a heterosexual relationship.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Since that is what you're doing, sticking your fingers in your ears so you don't hear the truth you can't handle about the likely scenarios that will occur if SS activists continue to push their marriage-hijacking agenda on 92% of the population, you should understand then that that likely reality simply won't go away because you have your fingers in your ears.

    All can change quickly in a short-time power-play.
    As usual, there is nothing based on reality here. The majority of the population supports SSM and it's growing. The nice thing is, just like CT said, when people like you make really dumb statements that are based on some extreme ideology, most people see it for what it is; nothing of consequence, just some ideologue screaming nonsense. It'll turn fence sitters against you. You are doing my side a great service... as usual.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So IOW in the context of the thread you have not lost any freedoms and or rights. Thanks for undermining your own hyperbolic rhetoric.
    I didn't say that anywhere.

    Not only do you need to heed the words that you use, but you also need to heed those I use.

    Evidently you have not yet read that "big, long post", or else you don't understand that mong our rights, real rights, not fabricated rights that involve some sort of collective pairing, not rights granted by statist dictate, and not non-existent guarantee of reward and outcome, there's an overriding right to a Constitutional and Republican form of government.

    Do you have any idea what either of these references entail, and to what we're entitled when these are denied?

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